re: My liberal friends are MELTING

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As bad as Joe did, Trump did much worse.

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Nah, the other way around.

Trump was overbearing at times, but he made a lot of salient points. He just left a lot on the table, because he seemed like he was spoiling for a fight.

In contrast, I can't think of Biden landing any shots. He was rude and insulting instead of effectively responding, he didn't make any relevant points, he tossed around some tired old talking points, and several times he avoided answering clear questions to his detriment.

Trump- brought up Hunter Biden and that was a mess for Biden. Just denied the money (despite it being documented), then denied the drugs, then stated he overcame the drugs. Horrible sequence for him; Trump appeared to badger, but when you read the transcript Joe's waffling big-time and then tosses his other son in to try to distract, which didn't work. He also brought up Trump's kids, but then failed to deliver anything at all.

Supreme Court;
Trump: elections have consequences, I'm the president and we have the Senate, I'm the president for 4 years.
Biden: she threatens women and ACA (?), flat refused to answer the moderator's question about stacking the Court "because that becomes the issue".

Evironment/Wildfires: Trump says California needs better forest management because it's a yearly occurance, Biden says save the Amazon.

Race/Justice: Trump says to hell with sensitivity classes, quickly says "sure I denounce the Proud Boys or whoever you can come up with", calls out Biden on zero police support, calls out Biden for past voting record and comments. Biden= Antifa isn't real.