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re: Do people REALLY not understand why you go for two after the first TD when down 15?
Posted on 9/22/20 at 8:54 pm to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 9/22/20 at 8:54 pm to Roger Klarvin
Pretty strongly disagree with this one.
Go for 1 to get it to a one possession game. Anything can happen then as the pressure is on the team ahead and the trailing team has momentum.
You go for 2 the first time and
- if you make it, it's still a one possession game. Same deal
- if you miss it, it's a 2 possession game with lost momentum and they can call plays differently on the other sideline and it's a 2 possession game. The risk of this is not worth the reward of cutting it to 7.
Go for 1 to get it to a one possession game. Anything can happen then as the pressure is on the team ahead and the trailing team has momentum.
You go for 2 the first time and
- if you make it, it's still a one possession game. Same deal
- if you miss it, it's a 2 possession game with lost momentum and they can call plays differently on the other sideline and it's a 2 possession game. The risk of this is not worth the reward of cutting it to 7.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:23 am to crazyatthecamp
quote:See, perfect example of assuming it's a 1 possession game and the 2pt conversion will be made.
Go for 1 to get it to a one possession game
There's just as high of a chance that an 8 point game is a 2 possession game as it is a 1 possession game.
quote:Being down 7 is not the "same deal" as being down 8.
You go for 2 the first time and
- if you make it, it's still a one possession game. Same deal
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:40 pm to crazyatthecamp
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momentum
This is the only argument for going for 1 first. And it's not a good one imo. I think too much credit is given to momentum.
The basic principal is if your down 15 you are either going to score two TD's, one 2 pt conversion and one standard PAT or you will need to score two TDs, a standard PAT, a missed 2-PAT, and a field goal. Those are your two most likely outcomes to force overtime or win the game in regulation.
The reason to go for two first is to know whether you should kick a fg or go for it on 4th and 10 from the opponents 30 on your ensuing drive. It also allows you to manage the clock and timeouts properly when you know how many scores/possessions you need.
There are 0 logical reasons to go for one first, only emotional ones in regards to momentum or the likelyhood of your team playing hard
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