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re: Bucks and Magic are boycotting tonight's game UPDATE All games postponed

Posted on 8/30/20 at 10:49 am to
Posted by Bronc
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Posted on 8/30/20 at 10:49 am to
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As stated above in the law even the agitator has a right to self defense as long as gives him/herself up and begins retreating, which EVEN if Kyle was antagonistic towards them, he still began to retreat and run away. Again, clear cut self defense.

You stated the EXACT reason he has to have fear for his life. He hears a gunshot behind him turns around and a guy is chasing him trying to take his AR. There's plausible reason to believe the gunfire came from the guy chasing him, even if you cannot visibly see the gun.



You are leaving out the “reasonable” component. If Kyle simply heard a shot and blindly fired without confirming anything(which that seems like what happened), he wasn’t making a reasonable determination now was he? He was instead making a reactionary one. If he claims he thought his victim had a gun, that will only compound the idea he was reacting, not reasonably responding to identifiable mortal or bodily harm. But so far his defense seems to be taking a different posture, that Rosenbaum was attempting to take the gun, but from there they would have to make the case Rosenbaum intended to kill him with it, not just disarm a threat.

That line of defense to me also becomes a stretch given the reactionary nature we saw. Especially with an autopsy showing bullets in the groin, hand, and grazing the right side of the forehead, and then crucially, one entering the back. That’s not the markings of someone making a calculated decision to defined imminent mortal danger, that’s someone that heard a noise and reacted with deadly force toward the sound and then double tapped his pursuer. Which the video seems to align with. 4 shots initially then three more after already killing the victim. 5 total hitting the victim.

Again, all in the larger context that I mentioned prior. A hot headed woman assaulter responding to a call to violence on social media, illegally obtaining and brandishing a weapon, and potentially engaging in multiple incidents of threatening protestors with lethal force before the initial fatal conflict.

All gonna come into play with the jury.

But again, the people that should be punished here are the police. Who failed this community again and again and through their prejudice and corrupted enforcement of the law not only allowed this situation to happen, but now apparently, actively strategized toward it by pushing protestors toward the outside agitating militia.
This post was edited on 8/30/20 at 10:52 am
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
15316 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 10:58 am to
Dude, the letter of the law is you have to reasonably believe your life/well being is in danger. Gunshots behind you and someone chasing you attempting to take your weapon is all the reason you need for that belief.

I'm done, you can go out and riot or whatever it is yall do when the jury confirms self defense.
This post was edited on 8/30/20 at 10:59 am
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