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re: Bucks and Magic are boycotting tonight's game UPDATE All games postponed
Posted on 8/29/20 at 10:20 am to Bronc
Posted on 8/29/20 at 10:20 am to Bronc
quote:Based on the videos, this is factually incorrect by law.
If the multiple reports of Kyle initiating aggressive behavior toward vandals are accurate(which are outlined in his charges as well), specifically, if he approached and confronted with threats and gun in hand, Which he had no legal right to brandish, possibly raised at one point(recklessly endangering safety), toward people at the gas station, which no video I am aware of corroborates or debunks, but if accurate, that makes it very difficult to claim he was the one responding in self defense. If he threatened someone with a loaded weapon it would be the person being threatened, if anything, that had the justification to act in retaliation.
Even if Kyle was the initial aggressor, the Wisconsin law states you have to feel you are in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm. Who the aggressor is can change at any moment. Even if Kyle were the initial aggressor, we can easily see the 1st video where Kyle is now retreating and the bald red shirt guy is the aggressor. With Kyle retreating, that can no longer has the defense of stating he felt imminent danger.
Basically, you don't get to do whatever you want for as long as you want and say it's justified, the dynamics of the encounter. And let's remember, we don't know if Kyle was the initial aggressor. But even if he was, we know the guy he shot was the aggressor at the moment he was shot.
Then we know by seeing/hearing it on video people are going after Kyle, not to subdue, but to physically harm. one guy swung a skateboard. One guy went at him with a gun, and his friend posted on FB that the guy's only regret is that he didn't empty his clip into Kyle sooner. So again, they're not trying to subdue, they're trying to hurt/kill him. So again, the 2nd video would very clearly seem to show self defense.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 10:58 am to shel311
Here's a video I'm seeing for the very first time.
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I've always wondered about this 1st shooting after the bald/red shirt guy throws the object at Kyle, you hear a gunshot but I never knew where it was coming from.
This video seems to show where it did come from. Considering in this moment Kyle is retreating and the other dude is the aggressor, this would only serve to strengthen the self defense argument.
One thing we still haven't really touched on much is that he was charged with 1st degree murder.
Bronc, have you seen anything, one shred of evidence that points Kyle planning in a premeditated way to shoot these guys...who were clearly attacking him?
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I've always wondered about this 1st shooting after the bald/red shirt guy throws the object at Kyle, you hear a gunshot but I never knew where it was coming from.
This video seems to show where it did come from. Considering in this moment Kyle is retreating and the other dude is the aggressor, this would only serve to strengthen the self defense argument.
One thing we still haven't really touched on much is that he was charged with 1st degree murder.
Bronc, have you seen anything, one shred of evidence that points Kyle planning in a premeditated way to shoot these guys...who were clearly attacking him?
This post was edited on 8/29/20 at 11:06 am
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