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re: Is Fauci a liar? New Video- 504,000 views.

Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:32 am to
Posted by shell01
Marianna, FL
Member since Jul 2014
797 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:32 am to
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All the while, 22 clinical trials that prove...


Since you bumped this thread and the original FB poster has now blocked me (love you anyway Liz )

The google drive link does not show 22 trials. In fact, it only includes 4 clinical trials, 3 of which are from the same investigators (Didier Raoult et al).

I took the time to look at each of these papers yesterday:
22 Aug 2005: pre-clinical (primate cell culture)
28 Jan 2020: pre-clinical (tissue culture)
13 Jan 2020: non-study (treatment guidelines)
18 Feb 2020: non-study (review article)
27 Feb 2020: non-study (another review article of the same info as 18 Feb )
4 March 2020: non-study (duplicate of above 27Feb review)
9 March 2020: pre-clinical (primate cell culture)
9 March 2020: non-study (treatment guidelines)
20 March 2020: clinical trial (42 pts, open-label non randomized. many concerns about this study)
20 March 2020: non-study (treatment guidelines)
27 March 2020: clinical trial (80 pts, open label, non-randomized, same authors as 20March paper)
10 March 2020: non-study (review article)
21 March 2020: non-study (discussion of known characteristics of chloroquine)
21 March 2020: non-study (chloroquine label)
23 March 2020: wrong drug (study of other drugs, and subgroup analysis of those receiving HCQ did not show difference)
24 March 2020: non-study: “letter to editor” opinion article
26 March 2020: non-study (review article)
7 April 2020: non-study (treatment guidelines)
10 April 2020: clinical trial (62pts, randomized, double-blind, control group)
10 April 2020: no reference, cannot evaluate
12 April 2020: clinical trial; 1061 pts, same authors as above (20 and 27 March), no info on study design, does not appear to be a control group. No info on inclusion criteria. Pts with poor clinical outcomes appear to have been much worse off at baseline
13 April 2020: non-study (review article)

Hopefully we get some convincing data on HCQ soon. But until then, doctors are free to use it as they see fit, that hasn't changed. The only thing that has changed is we now have another option to add to the doctors' tool box for their more severe patients (remember, remdesivir is given via IV for at least 5 days...it's only being used on hospitalized patients.)

eta: And what's that WWL article supposed to prove? There are actually quite a few vaccines in development right now. Working in monkeys is not the same as "proven".
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 6:45 am
Posted by davidsheroes
Los Angeles
Member since May 2007
3596 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:52 am to
The bottom line was that Fauci never gave HCQ a chance and at the same time promoting his drug manufactured by Gilead.

The next point is that HCQ has proven to be effective bUt YouTube, Facebook, Google, etc has censored the doctors, specialist from spreading their message and information. I have watched doctors testimony on HCQ, saved the videos, and when I go back to watch these videos - they are gone.

Why is the mainstream media promoting Gilead’s drug and at the same time attacking HCQ? The reason is not medical but political. The takedown of the economy and the takedown of our President.
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 7:59 am
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