illinois instead of georgia

because the rose bowl is run by retards who would rather keep to tradition than taking the actual better team

or they knew georgia had a good shot at whipping that usc arse.

no, i dont think it had anything to do with USC actually

well, that may or not be true, i dont know all the fricking rules

but still, replace UGA with missouri...why did the rose bowl select illinois over them?

the fact is, if the rose bowl had their pick of any of the at-large teams, odds are they still would have went big 10 regardless of who the better team was

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well, that may or not be true, i dont know all the fricking rules

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When two bowls lose host teams, then the bowl losing the number one team may not select a replacement team from the same Conference as the number two team, unless the bowl losing the number two team consents.

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but still, replace UGA with missouri...why did the rose bowl select illinois over them?

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Illinois probably travels better than Missouri.

Plus BCS bowls hate teams that lost their last game.

Why do you think Missouri ended up playing Arky in the Who Gives a shite bowl after being #2 in the nation going into the CCg weekend?

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the fact is, if the rose bowl had their pick of any of the at-large teams, odds are they still would have went big 10 regardless of who the better team was

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and that selection in many cases would have been the right one.

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well, that may or not be true, i dont know all the fricking rules

but still, replace UGA with missouri...why did the rose bowl select illinois over them?

the fact is, if the rose bowl had their pick of any of the at-large teams, odds are they still would have went big 10 regardless of who the better team was

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Missiouri and Illinois were about equal. Missiouri did win the head to head, but if you watched the game it was on a pretty flukish play. If the 2 teams were close to equal then of course the Rose bowl committee is going to select the Big-10 team.

I can tell you this though, everyone involved with USC from the players to the coaches to the fans wanted Georgia, but were screwed by the bcs once again.

The overall bowl slate was so much better pre-bcs, and it's not even close.

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well, that may or not be true, i dont know all the fricking rules

but still, replace UGA with missouri...why did the rose bowl select illinois over them?

the fact is, if the rose bowl had their pick of any of the at-large teams, odds are they still would have went big 10 regardless of who the better team was

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Exactly. He's right; there's a clause that, in this case, prohibits the Rose Bowl from picking Georgia (or any other qualifying SEC team) as an at-large without the consent of the SEC. So Georgia gets picked by the Sugar Bowl. Oklahoma is in the Fiesta Bowl because of Big XII ties and Virginia Tech's in the Orange for ACC ties. Big East champion West Virginia MUST be selected.

The Rose Bowl gets to pick first from:

#5 Georgia (10-2) -- The Sugar won't allow this to happen. They're effectively locked in already.

#6 Missouri (11-2) -- Missouri can be chosen as an at-large because the clause prohibiting Georgia from being taken doesn't apply here. That clause only applies for teams from conferences whose champions are in the BCSCG. So that means only the Rose Bowl may pick Illinois as an at-large unless the Rose Bowl allows other bowls to take them, and the same for Georgia and the Sugar. So basically, the Rose can take Missouri but doesn't.

#8 Kansas (11-1) -- See Missouri.

#9 West Virginia (10-2) -- They had to be taken by ONE BCS bowl, and eventually the Fiesta had to choose between them or Hawaii. The Rose Bowl shanks the other bowls' freedom of choice of opponent by not taking WVU.

#10 Hawaii (12-0) -- Also an automatic BCS berth, like WVU. The Rose Bowl says "F U" to the others and passes on Hawaii as well, leaving 2 of the remaining 3 bowls with 2 choices for teams. ((It's that attitude that makes me feel for James Carville's "The Rose Bowl needs to be blown up!" quote. That the Rose Bowl always gets to pick first in these scenarios is incredibly cheap. But enough of my commentary.))

#11 Arizona State (10-2) -- Same vein as Missouri and Kansas.

#12 Florida (9-3) -- Removed from contention in the presence of Georgia and LSU.

#13 Illinois (9-3) -- And here's the team that got destroyed.

#14 Boston College (10-3) -- Only listed for completion's sake, but hey, they *were* eligible.



So yes, with ALL those other teams available -- Missouri, West Virginia and Kansas especially being good teams -- the Rose Bowl took Illinois. >=[

EDIT: And that doesn't even factor in the head-to-head matchup. Geez, did Missouri get screwed out this year...of three available at-large spots, two of the teams selected over them received losses at the hands OF Missouri in the regular season!

EDIT2: Removed Florida. Forgot about the (stupid) "max of 2 teams per conference" rule.

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i dont know where the hell you get this from, but ok

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Probably because Illinois has a good bit more tradition than Missouri and a larger population.

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'01 nebraska, '03 oklahoma, and '07 kansas all lost their last game and still made a BCS game

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Take Oklahoma out since the BCS had no choice in that.

Look at the final BCS standings and the selection procedures and you will see why Kansas made it.

1. OSU
2. LSU
3. Va Tech
4. OU
5. UGA
6. Mizzou
7. USC
8. Kansas
9. WVU
10. Hawaii
11. ASU
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13. Illinois
14. BC

I'll break this down.
Teams in Bold were already assigned to games. Teams in Italics lost their last game.
12 UF is deleted because the SEC reached their team allotment.

So basically the Citrus had their choice of

Hawaii who was going to travel a ridiculously small number of people.
ASU who is across the fricking country, barely won their last game against a shitty Arizona team, and lost 2 of their last 4.
or Kansas

So lets not pretend the Citrus was rolling in the great choices. Again historically the BCS has favored teams that don't make the CCG, but win their last game.

See LSU 06
See UGA 07
See Texas 04

Just some quick examples.

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thats what im trying to figure out...because i definitely remember them beating illinois and kansas

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Economics.

The best teams don't always make it to BCS games.

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They best teams don't always make it to BCS games.

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Conclusion: I want Matt Leinart's "frick THE BCS" tee shirt. =D