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re: 7,890 deaths in NYC as of this morning. How many w/o underlying conditions?
Posted on 4/18/20 at 3:07 pm to SevenLinesofPine
Posted on 4/18/20 at 3:07 pm to SevenLinesofPine
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Obesity and hypertension are both conditions caused by a person's own damn choices and don't apply to healthy and responsible parts of the population, so hell yeah they should be counted as underlying conditions
Since you clearly have little understanding of this topic...
There are significantly more adults with HTN NOT caused by their own decisions, than say obesity. Not to mention, an individual who has HTN but has it controlled with medication (or in mild cases just dietary changes), still has the diagnosis of HTN. Once you lose weight, you are no longer obese.
As someone mentioned earlier, HTN should be stratified in order to accurately determine its significance as a risk factor for mortality. And as I am mentioning now, an individual does not have equal control over developing these particular comorbidities, like you clearly believe.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 3:12 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
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Since you clearly have little understanding of this topic...
There are significantly more adults with HTN NOT caused by their own decisions, than say obesity. Not to mention, an individual who has HTN but has it controlled with medication (or in mild cases just dietary changes), still has the diagnosis of HTN. Once you lose weight, you are no longer obese.
As someone mentioned earlier, HTN should be stratified in order to accurately determine its significance as a risk factor for mortality. And as I am mentioning now, an individual does not have equal control over developing these particular comorbidities, like you clearly believe.
This is a month old so it may have changed given how fluid the "science of C-19" is. But from 3/20 -
The coronavirus is especially dangerous for older people and people with other health problems, such as diabetes, heart disease and weak immune systems.
But are people who only have high blood pressure also in greater peril?
It's an important question because one out of every three Americans has this condition, which is also known as hypertension.
The short answer appears to be: People with high blood pressure may be at increased risk, especially if it's not under control and they have other health problems. But if their blood pressure is under control and they don't have other risk factors, they probably are not at any greater peril, experts say.
"It does not make a lot of sense that if somebody is otherwise healthy and young and they have hypertension alone, that they should be at increased risk," says Dr. Mariell Jessup, chief science and medical officer at the American Heart Association.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 3:51 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
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There are significantly more adults with HTN NOT caused by their own decisions, than say obesity. Not to mention, an individual who has HTN but has it controlled with medication (or in mild cases just dietary changes), still has the diagnosis of HTN. Once you lose weight, you are no longer obese.
Found the person with hypertension, making the same argument that fat people do about obesity.
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