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re: Devs - FX/HBO Series from Alex Garland

Posted on 4/25/20 at 8:32 pm to
Posted by cigsmcgee
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 8:32 pm to
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But it's not, the simulation Lily and Forest end up in, everyone but them is simulates , making everyone else fake


well, lily and forest are also infinite simulations. they just have their "data" more up to date. i think the show def should have shown some more glimpses of the "bad" realities possible at the end, to drive home the multiverse stuff.

i also thought the show did a very poor job of making determinism "real." it was very frustrating to watch characters just say "well, i have no choice," only for the show to end with someone doing the very simple action of choosing to the do opposite of what they were shown doing. dunno, the whole premise was hard to buy cause the show never made me think free will was impossible, it just told me so. until it wasnt.
Posted by Matisyeezy
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 9:30 pm to
I really enjoyed this show. Super atmospheric and suspenseful, tech that was beyond the scope of our understanding and somehow conceivable at the same time, Offerman I thought was really good, and a bittersweet ending.

I’m about it.
Posted by musick
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:32 am to
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well, lily and forest are also infinite simulations. they just have their "data" more up to date. i think the show def should have shown some more glimpses of the "bad" realities possible at the end, to drive home the multiverse stuff.


Right, but more up to date data means they remember everything that happened prior, and that they are in a simulation to being with, and that his wife and daughter aren't his wife and daughter and Lily knows Jamie isn't Jamie

That's where it differs from San Junipero where the two lovers went together and knew where they were, happily ever infinitely.

Forest and Lily have the burden of knowing everything and everyone is fake, rather than themselves, and their actual significant others are mere copies, with their memory not as up to date, essentially making them NPCs

It's not a "good ending" like it seems to be on the surface IMO
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