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re: Does the left really believe we can power the entire country on solar and wind?

Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:48 pm to
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:48 pm to
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what kinda isht panels are you talking about? Quality panels haven’t improved anywhere near that much


Then how much have they moved. I don’t do this all day, everyday for one of the largest solar companies in the US or anything.

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A 5kw system at 100% efficiency ( no other loads ) is 27/5. Good luck doing that under 5 hours.


Thank you for proving that you’re estimation was wrong. Even a small system, which is significantly smaller than the 9kW average of current installations is on the low end of your estimation and a more average sized system performs obviously better.

And to reiterate, solar isn’t for everyone or every household, but disregarding distributed generation and utilizing all options for energy is a ridiculous argument.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57517 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:38 pm to
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Then how much have they moved
Sunpower set the record in 2016 at about 22.8. (They're still selling that panel, BTW, so 0%?)

Last thing I saw was Trina with an IBC cell a hair over 25%. No where near the 40% improvement you're talking about. I guess that could make sense if you compared the cheapest crap-azz utility grade panels from 10 years ago to a modern IBC cell. But that's not exactly a like-to-like comparison.

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Even a small system, which is significantly smaller than the 9kW average of current installations is on the low end of your estimation
yeah. I response to the assertion "that even a small array of panels can fully charge a car." A 4'x5' panel does about 350w in perfect conditions. I'll leave the math to you to decide if charging a 27kwH in a reasonable (1-2 hours) is a small array or not.

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disregarding distributed generation and utilizing all options for energy is a ridiculous argument.
No one is disregarding it. Though I suppose that's what you think. Calculating something out to be a poor economic investment isn't dismissive. It's an evaluation.
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 10:55 pm
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