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think Mike always just wanted to be accepted and felt like the rest of the crew didn’t appreciate how integral he was to making them and the show as famous as they became. You could see it in the Italy blow up with Ronnie when he head butted the wall. He just was over being disrespected and hated by them when he was the main reason the show blew up.

I never thought of it this way, but it obviously makes total sense. By Italy, the show was basically the biggest thing on television and Mike (and to a lesser extent, Snooki) were the only 2 people any non-fan could name.

I always thought he was basically just having a substance-related breakdown in those years, which I guess he kind of was, but I would imagine the rest of the gang (except maybe Paulie) hating on him and thinking of him as a joke was driving him crazy.

Jenni is the worst. She's not a star. She's only stayed relevant on the show by getting into others perosnal lives and then yelling at them once they call her out on it.

Angelina I think is pretty grateful now as well. I feel like She always kind of got the joke that she was a joke.

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Posted by 632627

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Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:27 pm to Jack Ruby

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By Italy, the show was basically the biggest thing on television and Mike (and to a lesser extent, Snooki) were the only 2 people any non-fan could name.

Agreed, but I’d say paulie is up there as well. Snookie, paulie and Mike are celebrities. IIRC, when the show was in its first season or so, snookie was just as famous/infamous as Mike. They carried the show at first. At some point, paulie emerged as the second banana.

The situation is arguably the greatest reality star/personality of all time. Say what you want about the show, the dude was really charismatic and entertaining.

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Posted by Tiger Voodoo

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Posted on 8/24/19 at 7:49 am to Jack Ruby

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I always thought he was basically just having a substance-related breakdown in those years, which I guess he kind of was, but I would imagine the rest of the gang (except maybe Paulie) hating on him and thinking of him as a joke was driving him crazy.

Yeah his substance abuse obviously played a big role there too for sure.

But I think even that was ultimately driven by his depression from being ostracized and outcast by the group he wanted love and respect from. He was using it as a mask and shield from what was ultimately driving his depression.

I think he early on he allowed The Situation to overtake Mike (and he relished it btw, he’s not some totally innocent victim), which is what the group was ultimately hating on. And when he was ready to go back to being Mike, they kept treating him like he was Sitch and punishing him for his actions back then, even though it probably felt like he was doing it as a character for the show in his mind.

The lines between show and reality were pretty easily blurred for them all I’d imagine.

The peace he seems to have found today is that he is and is accepted as Mike again. Paulie has been Paulie since day 1, and the others are more in their characters now imo, although the characters have changed somewhat (J Wow and Snooki being the overprotective moms, Ronnie the black sheep with issues, Vinny the comedian).

This post was edited on 8/24/19 at 7:57 am

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