re: The shills on here have become more and more outwardly angry

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I do not want to derail this thread. Let’s remember to take it up on the next abortion thread

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coward

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sapience is a higher standard that sentience

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and this is part of the problem. you are using terms that have high elasticity. you could define down sentience to a being that perceives and responds to sensations of whatever kind, but that fails to acknowledge that sentience can also include subjectivity and qualia which is a huge ontological leap. moreover, sapience technically means wisdom (which some animals can seem to possess), not any sort of ontological consciousness or self awareness which is what i think you are aiming at, even though you seem to be incapable of articulating that.

so, you're needlessly getting bogged down in semantics over something that doesn't really matter on the topic anyway. those terms don't help you ontologically distinguish a human from an animal, not that such a distinction is warranted for the purposes of the discussion in the first place. you've just gone off the rails and won't listen to anyone who is trying to get you back on the subject. you've latched on to this one irrelevant idea and you can't justify why it's warranted to begin with.

so if you want to advance the discussion, you'll demonstrate how your position fulfills epistemic knowledge; jtb, jtb+, warrant, some other epistemically sound reasoning criteria. but this will be child's play to you because you're smart and i'm stupid.