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re: For those who are pro choice: At what point do you feel a fetus becomes a human being?

Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:50 pm to
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I fully recognize that as I work back, it gets less and less obvious. What I, and no other human can do is tell anyone the magical moment it shifted from "not OK to kill" to "ok to kill".

Once I recognized that reality, I was no longer pro-choice. And, I used to be VERY pro-choice



There isn't a magical moment. That's why some states are passing heartbeat bills. That's different than conception, is it not?

That's why I am saying that prancing around here saying that conception is clearly the place to draw a line in the sand is silly and contradictory.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:55 pm to
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There isn't a magical moment. That's why some states are passing heartbeat bills. That's different than conception, is it not?
yes.

But, I'm talking about how I personally arrived at where I am.

If we look at it as a number line with conception on one end and baby on the outside at the other.........with the requisite infinite number of points between............and we agree on the right side it's in the "can't be killed" category...........my point is that even if we agree that the line's origination point it is in the "can be killed" category, we have NO WAY of getting from there to here.

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That's why I am saying that prancing around here saying that conception is clearly the place to draw a line in the sand is silly and contradictory.

Well, I don't say that and frankly, it's unnecessary to say because women don't know they're pregnant at conception.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/17/19 at 1:11 pm to
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prancing around here saying that conception is clearly the place to draw a line in the sand is silly and contradictory
it's neither silly nor contradictory. that's when it is a person.
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