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re: Major WWII shipwreck discovered: Japanese battleship sunk by US found
Posted on 2/8/19 at 2:53 pm to CarrolltonTiger
Posted on 2/8/19 at 2:53 pm to CarrolltonTiger
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Why would the Iowa have been obsolete?
Because aircraft were pennies on the dollar. The aircraft carrier was the dominant capital ship by the mid-30s but the old admirals of all navies wouldn't accept that.
Now, just because something is obsolete doesn't mean it is ineffective. Just obsolete. (ETA: For example, in 2019, revolvers are obsolete. They are not ineffective.)
Let me ask you this - it's 1942 and you get to pick - Japan or the United States. Next, you get to pick - 5 CV type carrier groups (but ZERO battleships) or 8 battleship groups (but ZERO CVs) and you have to control the Pacific theater in 36 months.
Go.
This post was edited on 2/9/19 at 7:54 am
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Posted on 2/8/19 at 2:56 pm to Ace Midnight
True.
Now which is more suited to softening up invasion sites?
Now which is more suited to softening up invasion sites?
Posted on 2/8/19 at 3:00 pm to Ace Midnight
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The aircraft was the dominant capital ship by the mid-30s but the old admirals of all navies wouldn't accept that.
They wanted battleships instead of aircraft carriers. Billy Mitchell proved them wrong and was demoted and court martialed for his efforts.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 3:59 pm to Ace Midnight
Japan ran out of navel planes. During the Philippine landing operation, Japan used they carriers to bait Nimitz to pulling his carriers from protecting the landing. Japan’s battleships snuck up to our Jeep carriers (CVE) and some DDs and sunk them all they then retreated. Had they persued we would have had BB on BB battle.
And our BBs were loaded with HE rounds for landing support and not AP rounds for navel warfare.
And our BBs were loaded with HE rounds for landing support and not AP rounds for navel warfare.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 7:49 pm to Ace Midnight
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The aircraft was the dominant capital ship by the mid-30s but the old admirals of all navies wouldn't accept that.
You have to remember that the naval brass of most major navies were schooled in the warfare principles of Alfred Thayer Mahan, whose 1890 bestseller - The Influence of Sea Power Upon History, 1660-1793 - was the gold standard for strategic naval thinking up into World War II. Mahan's doctrines revolved around a single decisive naval engagement where the battleship took center stage.
The Japanese navy especially swore by Mahan's doctrines and even offered him a teaching position at their naval war college. They credited Mahan's principles for their brilliant victory at the Battle of Tsushima Straits at the climax of the Russo-Japanese War of 1905. Other great navies such as the Royal Navy of Great Britain and even our own U.S. Navy all taught their officers to live and die by Mahanian dogmas.
The power of the aircraft and the aircraft carrier wasn't taken seriously until Japanese carrier-based airplanes sank the HMS Prince of Wales and the HMS Repulse at the Naval Battle of Malaya (December 10, 1941). You didn't start to see more carrier-centric doctrines emerge until after the Battle of the Coral Sea and the Battle of Midway in 1942.
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