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re: Starting a Fencing and Decking Company
Posted on 12/16/18 at 10:48 am to nugget
Posted on 12/16/18 at 10:48 am to nugget
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Never said anything him not being on site. However, he doesn't need to be doing to manual labor for us to be profitable.
You realize that profitable is different than worth your time to make a profit? What the heck does someone do on site for a fencing job and not do manual labor? It’s not rocket science, it’s 95% manual labor. Bidding and buying materials is extremely easy. Most guys in fencing can bid you almost blind by just knowing sq ft and gates.
You are doing this back arse words so I’m just trying to help and save your time. I don’t see anyway it will work. You can’t simple step into a manual labor job with very little experience and expect to hire contractors and just make money.
First off, if you are a small business starting out the first thing people expect is being able to work immediately and get the job done quick. With IC’s they will be tied up with other jobs.
The way I would expect most to start off is a 2 man crew with one being the owner and the other an employee. Owner puts up fence from 6:30-3 and quotes at the end of the day, does book keeping and advertising outside of that.
If you don’t have enough work for a single crew, how are you going to make any profit and keep your IC’s busy enough to care to work for you?
Posted on 12/16/18 at 10:54 am to baldona
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With IC’s they will be tied up with other jobs.
This whole, "I already have these guys lined up" seems to be lost on you.
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You are doing this back arse words so I’m just trying to help and save your time. I don’t see anyway it will work. You can’t simple step into a manual labor job with very little experience and expect to hire contractors and just make money.
I know multiple other guys with a relatively similar model. They're not in fencing, but irrigation, countertops, and a couple other trades. I can handle making the numbers work.
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 10:59 am
Posted on 12/16/18 at 11:00 am to baldona
Balding always speaking the truth.
Let’s put all the logistics aside. To me subcontracting a sub contractors job seems like there would be very narrow margins. How can you be competitive with someone who does everything in house? Are you just hoping that they only get one quote? Or that your sales and marketing will win people over. How much would you have to tack on to your ICs price to make a profit and cover your overhead? 30,40%?
Let’s put all the logistics aside. To me subcontracting a sub contractors job seems like there would be very narrow margins. How can you be competitive with someone who does everything in house? Are you just hoping that they only get one quote? Or that your sales and marketing will win people over. How much would you have to tack on to your ICs price to make a profit and cover your overhead? 30,40%?
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