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re: Study: All Humanity Comes From One Couple.................... You don't say
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:41 am to Jjdoc
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:41 am to Jjdoc
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just gave you evidence to which you singled out 2 things to "isolate" rather than taking the whole.
The whole is irrelevant when its components are false, I will not be bogged down by having to address everything you say. That old apologetics technique of constantly setting up new barriers and splitting to counterpoints is not something that I'm obligated to take part in.
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There is a worldwide tradition among natives of a global flood. This is something we find everywhere.
This has been addressed, the flood narratives largely do not remotely resemble one another and the Biblical account is not even the oldest. Japan doesn't even have a flood myth.
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What Rob is suggesting is that analysis of population growth statistics confirms that there was zero population at the estimated time of the end of the flood.
What's he's suggesting is stupid, it's a manipulation of math to show false data based on a predetermined narrative. There's a mathematical proof that 1 = 2 with the same sort of deception.
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Human palaeontological evidence exists even in the earliest geologic 'ages'. If the layers of rock were laid down by a global flood and then interpreted as evolutionary long-ages, human remains and artefacts would appear to be in such positions. The most ancient human artefacts date to the post-flood era. This indicates that the earlier hardware could have been buried beyond reach by a huge flood.
Oh, the old hydrologic column argument. The argument that the creatures of earth wound up buried in order of evolutionary history somehow in a global flood. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that areas that were consistently alternating between sea and dry land according to history has alternating layers of sea life and land creatures. As to the human artifact evidence I would invite you to actually check a site that isn't AnswersinGenesis to show you that the artifact record is rather unbroken.
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There is a lot of evidence.
There is a lot of apologetics and fabrication.
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And? How does that remove it from a global flood?
Because the actual evidence shows a 5 to 10 meter, glacier fed rise in sea level over the course of years. Not a flood that covered even the highest mountain on Earth by 15 cubits as per Genesis.
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A Flood is a flood. What text and how are you reading that text?
I'm reading the false account in Genesis regarding a flood that covered the whole of earth overtopping the highest peaks of the world by 15 cubits in which all of the world, for the exception of Noah's crew, died a horrible death.
I look forward to your next spin, deflect cycle, and dodge.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:22 pm to blackrose890
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The whole is irrelevant when its components are false,
You just admitted the Black sea was correct, your argument was that it's not part of the whole.
So it's not false.
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I will not be bogged down by having to address everything you say. That old apologetics technique of constantly setting up new barriers and splitting to counterpoints is not something that I'm obligated to take part in.
Translation.. I will not consider the whole picture. I will only take a small part and CLAIM it was not a part of the picture.
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This has been addressed, the flood narratives largely do not remotely resemble one another and the Biblical account is not even the oldest. Japan doesn't even have a flood myth.
They don't have to. In fact, the event doesn't have to look the same to peoples in different parts of the world.
Is it raining where you are today? Is it snowing? Weather is different all around the world. What you write about right now may be very different than me in the area I live.
The fact that they all wrote about a flood only compliments each other from their own perspectives.
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What's he's suggesting is stupid, it's a manipulation of math to show false data based on a predetermined narrative. There's a mathematical proof that 1 = 2 with the same sort of deception.
Then disprove it. Use actual facts, not suggestions of it's just stupid.
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Oh, the old hydrologic column argument. The argument that the creatures of earth wound up buried in order of evolutionary history somehow in a global flood. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that areas that were consistently alternating between sea and dry land according to history has alternating layers of sea life and land creatures. As to the human artifact evidence I would invite you to actually check a site that isn't AnswersinGenesis to show you that the artifact record is rather unbroken.
So you can't disprove that....
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There is a lot of apologetics and fabrication.
No. I am giving evidence and because you have no explanation, you attack it rather than just say "I don't know... it could be possible"
The reason... you need it to not be true... for what ever reason.
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Because the actual evidence shows a 5 to 10 meter, glacier fed rise in sea level over the course of years. Not a flood that covered even the highest mountain on Earth by 15 cubits as per Genesis.
Just to be clear, you are suggesting that the glacier could not be a.. A (as in one component of multiple) part of a global flood?
You do understand you are about to disprove a lot of scientists who claim the world will flood because the caps are melting due to global warming.
Be careful...
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I'm reading the false account in Genesis regarding a flood that covered the whole of earth overtopping the highest peaks of the world by 15 cubits in which all of the world, for the exception of Noah's crew, died a horrible death.
Context... How did that flood happen in your eyes based on what you are reading?
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