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Go to a large city in the Northeast, Jersey, Connecticut, Philly. What you see is a mish mash of races that have lived together for generations and they do gravitate toward each other as members of the underclass.

I've been to cities all over the world, and given a viable choice, like demographics cohabitate.

Even in "enlightened" America, groups of the same economic class live on opposite sides of the tracks, or form their own communities next to one another. Many people literally never leave their little corner of the city.

Sometimes it's more obvious, because these areas are called names like "China town" or "little Italy". It's really quite obvious that races prefer live among their own in aggregate. Nothing shows that more starkly than watching different people who share the same streets literally ignore one another their entire lives.

But none of that really changes the fact that bringing in people from a totally different nation, culture, and background into this nation, unique as most other nations are, will fundamentally transform it.

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Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:53 am to MrCarton

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Posted by crazy4lsu

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Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:01 am to MrCarton

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Sometimes it's more obvious, because these areas are called names like "China town" or "little Italy"

That's far more true in the 1st generation than it is in the 2nd generation. One of the visible signs of integration is the degree of diffusion that exists in large cities, so much so that markers like Chinatown are more vestiges than descriptions.

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But none of that really changes the fact that bringing in people from a totally different nation, culture, and background into this nation, unique as most other nations are, will fundamentally transform it.

Of course it will change it. But America has been the best in the world at integrating immigrants, as long as they want to be integrated. It also shames and shuns those who don't want to be integrated.

Whenever discussions like this show up on the board, I'm reminded of this quote in an article about Algerians in France.

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“In the 14 years I have been here, I have never really been accepted, neither socially nor professionally,” said Sami Rahemi, who was born in Algeria, moved to France when he was 5 and returned to Algeria as an investor when he was 35. “Ever since I arrived in 1992, I have been called ‘the emigrant.’ I have always been defined by my migratory flow and never by what I am as a person. I had lived two years earlier in California, and everyone called me by my name there.”

I think it shows that Americans are far more concerned with what a person contributes than where they are from, and it makes me proud to be American. I believe in the country a great deal, and I think it can survive any demographic transition.

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