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re: The definitive list of the top 25 best QBs of ALL TIME, UPDATE: edited after feedback
Posted on 10/10/18 at 9:27 am to DemonKA3268
Posted on 10/10/18 at 9:27 am to DemonKA3268
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Would he be as great without the defenses the Patriots have had? Or as successful?
You Louisiana honks do know the 2011 Pats team that was a Wes Welker drop from winning the SB statistically had the second worst defense in NFL history to that point, right?
The defense also got torched for 540 yards in SB 52, right?
Pats fans will tell you the only really good defense the team has had since 2004 was 2014, with Revis, C. Jones, Hightower, Collins, and McCourty all in their prime.
2001 D was scrappy but not like the Ravens. 2003 was good, 2004 was great.
2007 was OK, but they were old and it caught up with them at seasons end.
2009-2013 just sucked.
2016 was scrappy, 2017 was terrible.
This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 9:30 am
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 9:32 am to Jack Ruby
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You Louisiana honks
Unfortunately, we will never know the answer to the original question. I like Brees and the Saints. Not my favorite team though. How the Patriots lost to the Giants, twice is the biggest mystery of all. Especially the undefeated regular season. This years Patriots defense is probably the worst but hey, they have Tom Brady. Just like the Saints have Brees, they will always be in games because of that.
This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 9:34 am
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:50 am to Jack Ruby
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You Louisiana honks do know the 2011 Pats team that was a Wes Welker drop from winning the SB statistically had the second worst defense in NFL history to that point, right?
The defense also got torched for 540 yards in SB 52, right?
Pats fans will tell you the only really good defense the team has had since 2004 was 2014, with Revis, C. Jones, Hightower, Collins, and McCourty all in their prime.
People spout off that Brady is the best because of 5 Super Bowls, 3 of those occurred because he had an great/elite defense. If Brady only had 2 Super Bowl wins do you think people would really say that he was better than Manning?
Super Bowls as validation for a quarterback's all time ranking is a stupid argument, especially because we've seen Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Joe Flacco, and Eli Manning all win Super Bowls in the relatively recent past.
This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 10:52 am
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