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re: why is it so important to dems that it be legal to murder the unborn

Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:30 pm to
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I would argue this is a lazy trope propagated by those who actually favor the act of abortion itself for political means (empowerment of females over men). "White men are trying to control your body." We don't give a shite about your body or controlling what you do with it. This isn't Griswold. We're not angry that you can make decisions over reproduction because of our misguided prurient curiosity. It's not 1930. Take birth control. Get plastic surgery to look like a fish. Become a man for all we care.


Maybe, but you'd lose. You're doing nothing more than making generalizations based on the loudest minority. It's really all you've done so far. Again, I get that it's easy and effective with this audience, but it's still lazy.

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To the extent we're angry, it's because rather than actually take advantage of hard-fought progress, some will engage in the regressive act of physically destroying a human fetus as a means of convenience. Actual progress is knowing precisely how procreation works, how birth control works, and how to avoid pregnancy with an extremely high degree of success. Abortion in lieu of that is, quite bluntly, a barbaric alternative. For the record, I don't walk around angry with women who have abortions. They're people, probably in moments of strife, who take advantage of the (poor) option that we've preached to them is a completely normal and not-at-all problematic route to take.


That's something that needs to be addressed from one direction, then, if that's really the goal. We both know, I think, that it isn't. You have hard extremes who are so binary in their view of the issue that we won't ever get to a point where something useful is accomplished. Mix in a bit of religion, and both 'sides' lose their shite.

No one wants to address the underlying issues. They'd rather throw insults at the other side. In the middle of that, you have more reasonable people who either are mostly apathetic to abortion or they don't know the answer and are able to admit that.
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