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re: why is it so important to dems that it be legal to murder the unborn
Posted on 6/28/18 at 12:26 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 6/28/18 at 12:26 pm to Pettifogger
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I'm sure some women have twisted themselves into the belief that using abortion as birth control is a sacrosanct right that defines womanhood itself.
It's a stupid view, but no doubt some hold it.
Others love abortion because people of faith and conservatives hate abortion. They celebrate it because it runs antithetically to the idea of the traditionalist family where men have value to the lives of children.
In reality, it's most often a vile, lazy practice that runs counter to our belief that we live in a progressive society. It's destructive, with harsh effects, and is can be accomplished via less destructive and grotesque means about 99% of the time.
More realistically, many simply don't buy into someone telling them what to do with their own bodies. That's something that should be supported.
You're creating a caricature of anyone who thinks abortion should remain legal. It's probably effective here, but it's still lazy.
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 12:59 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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More realistically, many simply don't buy into someone telling them what to do with their own bodies. That's something that should be supported.
I would argue this is a lazy trope propagated by those who actually favor the act of abortion itself for political means (empowerment of females over men). "White men are trying to control your body." We don't give a shite about your body or controlling what you do with it. This isn't Griswold. We're not angry that you can make decisions over reproduction because of our misguided prurient curiosity. It's not 1930. Take birth control. Get plastic surgery to look like a fish. Become a man for all we care.
To the extent we're angry, it's because rather than actually take advantage of hard-fought progress, some will engage in the regressive act of physically destroying a human fetus as a means of convenience. Actual progress is knowing precisely how procreation works, how birth control works, and how to avoid pregnancy with an extremely high degree of success. Abortion in lieu of that is, quite bluntly, a barbaric alternative. For the record, I don't walk around angry with women who have abortions. They're people, probably in moments of strife, who take advantage of the (poor) option that we've preached to them is a completely normal and not-at-all problematic route to take.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 8:47 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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You're creating a caricature of anyone who thinks abortion should remain legal. It's probably effective here, but it's still lazy.
What's lazy is a woman who doesn't want to become pregnant not taking every precaution to avoid pregnancy: abstinence, contraceptives, medication, etc., but instead using abortion as a matter of convenience.
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