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re: Cincinnati to MLS will officially be announced next Tuesday
Posted on 5/24/18 at 6:56 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 5/24/18 at 6:56 pm to StraightCashHomey21
To your point about Argentina having 28 teams, there are only 3 cities in the entire country with more than a million people according to the 2010 census - Rosario, Buenos Aires, and Cordoba. Argentina Metro Areas
By comparison, the US has 51 metro areas with more than a million people in the 2010 census. US Metro Areas
England has 10 metro areas with over a million people. LINK
Maybe having 28 teams is stupid for Argentina, but I don't think that's the case at all for MLS. The population of our country is such that we can support 30 or more teams easily. The bottom line is that if MLS wants to be a truly national league, and it does, the current 23 teams (soon to be 26) won't cut it. That leaves huge markets like Phoenix, Detroit, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, North Carolina, and San Antonio out of the league's TV footprint. It's going to keep expanding until most, if not all, of those markets are covered. MLS expansion won't stop at 28, and probably not at 32, either. It'll keep going until it can split into two divisions. The league is not going to leave big markets open for another league to potentially swoop in.
And I disagree strongly that expansion makes MLS weaker. Most of the crappy organizations that are holding MLS back are the pre-2000 teams. Chicago, the Revs, the Rapids, Dallas, the Crew, DC United, and San Jose. All of those are either cheap, have horrible stadium situations, have bad owners, or are just generally incompetent. All the expansion teams besides Philly have made the league better. I'll reserve judgment on Minnesota until next year when their stadium is done.
MLS is not like the other American leagues where the talent pool is almost entirely domestic. There are thousands of MLS-caliber players around the world for new teams to choose from. The MLS expansion draft is literally five players total, so it has minimal impact on the other teams. You won't see a Vegas Golden Knights situation happen in MLS where a championship team is built in the expansion draft. Expansion teams have not diluted the quality of the league at all, provided there are competently run and funded.
By comparison, the US has 51 metro areas with more than a million people in the 2010 census. US Metro Areas
England has 10 metro areas with over a million people. LINK
Maybe having 28 teams is stupid for Argentina, but I don't think that's the case at all for MLS. The population of our country is such that we can support 30 or more teams easily. The bottom line is that if MLS wants to be a truly national league, and it does, the current 23 teams (soon to be 26) won't cut it. That leaves huge markets like Phoenix, Detroit, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, North Carolina, and San Antonio out of the league's TV footprint. It's going to keep expanding until most, if not all, of those markets are covered. MLS expansion won't stop at 28, and probably not at 32, either. It'll keep going until it can split into two divisions. The league is not going to leave big markets open for another league to potentially swoop in.
And I disagree strongly that expansion makes MLS weaker. Most of the crappy organizations that are holding MLS back are the pre-2000 teams. Chicago, the Revs, the Rapids, Dallas, the Crew, DC United, and San Jose. All of those are either cheap, have horrible stadium situations, have bad owners, or are just generally incompetent. All the expansion teams besides Philly have made the league better. I'll reserve judgment on Minnesota until next year when their stadium is done.
MLS is not like the other American leagues where the talent pool is almost entirely domestic. There are thousands of MLS-caliber players around the world for new teams to choose from. The MLS expansion draft is literally five players total, so it has minimal impact on the other teams. You won't see a Vegas Golden Knights situation happen in MLS where a championship team is built in the expansion draft. Expansion teams have not diluted the quality of the league at all, provided there are competently run and funded.
Posted on 5/24/18 at 7:06 pm to Michael Stein
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To your point about Argentina having 28 teams, there are only 3 cities in the entire country with more than a million people according to the 2010 census - Rosario, Buenos Aires, and Cordoba. Argentina Metro Areas
But they have a much better way of producing players and it’s one of the top leagues in the Americas.
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By comparison, the US has 51 metro areas with more than a million people in the 2010 census. US Metro Areas
Pointless if club support isn’t there and you can’t produce local talent
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Maybe having 28 teams is stupid for Argentina, but I don't think that's the case at all for MLS. The population of our country is such that we can support 30 or more teams easily. The bottom line is that if MLS wants to be a truly national league, and it does, the current 23 teams (soon to be 26) won't cut it. That leaves huge markets like Phoenix, Detroit, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, North Carolina, and San Antonio out of the league's TV footprint. It's going to keep expanding until most, if not all, of those markets are covered. MLS expansion won't stop at 28, and probably not at 32, either. It'll keep going until it can split into two divisions. The league is not going to leave big markets open for another league to potentially swoop in.
MLS isn’t even the most supported league in the US. More EPL and LigaMX
quote:thinning out a shallow talent pool is never good when you don’t have the local talent to step in
And I disagree strongly that expansion makes MLS weaker. Most of the crappy organizations that are holding MLS back are the pre-2000 teams. Chicago, the Revs, the Rapids, Dallas, the Crew, DC United, and San Jose. All of those are either cheap, have horrible stadium situations, have bad owners, or are just generally incompetent. All the expansion teams besides Philly have made the league better. I'll reserve judgment on Minnesota until next year when their stadium is done.
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MLS is not like the other American leagues where the talent pool is almost entirely domestic. There are thousands of MLS-caliber players around the world for new teams to choose from
MLS isn’t a destination league
Most those players would rather play in lower leagues in Europe or South American leagues
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