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re: In God We Trust now under attack..
Posted on 5/7/18 at 10:40 am to Muthsera
Posted on 5/7/18 at 10:40 am to Muthsera
Did they credit Aristotle in the Declaration?
They do reference the laws of nature, but certainly their motivations and beliefs also rested on their belief in a creator as the source of those rights.
I'm not arguing that we use those couple of lines as evidence they intended America to be a Christian nation, but I think the argument that many of their motivations and justifications for establishing an independent nation weren't founded in their religious beliefs is weak.
They do reference the laws of nature, but certainly their motivations and beliefs also rested on their belief in a creator as the source of those rights.
I'm not arguing that we use those couple of lines as evidence they intended America to be a Christian nation, but I think the argument that many of their motivations and justifications for establishing an independent nation weren't founded in their religious beliefs is weak.
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 10:46 am to GRTiger
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They do reference the laws of nature, but certainly their motivations and beliefs also rested on their belief in a creator as the source of those rights.
The exact quote is "of Nature and Nature's God" which falls in line with Deism. Jefferson wrote it and Adams and Franklin edited and approved of that line.
Posted on 5/7/18 at 10:54 am to GRTiger
Give me one single source that the Founders believed we wouldn't have inherent rights if there was no "Creator".
If I brought Thomas Jefferson back from the dead, informed him on the whole of scientific and philosophical advancement, and said "Imagine, Tom, that human beings evolved over time from disparate matter and were not created in the image of an all-powerful deity, would they still have claim to the freedoms of the Bill of Rights?" You really think he would say "Hell no, bring on totalarianism! Life is pointless and we are slaves to the Leviathan!"
If I brought Thomas Jefferson back from the dead, informed him on the whole of scientific and philosophical advancement, and said "Imagine, Tom, that human beings evolved over time from disparate matter and were not created in the image of an all-powerful deity, would they still have claim to the freedoms of the Bill of Rights?" You really think he would say "Hell no, bring on totalarianism! Life is pointless and we are slaves to the Leviathan!"
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