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Iran hasn’t started a war with anyone

Posted on 4/30/18 at 4:52 pm
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/30/18 at 4:52 pm
This point is fricking stupid. The name Iran translates to Aryan. Germany helped give them this name because they wanted access to the Caspian Sea and Arabian Gulf. Much of their people think they are the original aryan race and because of that, and with the Islamic revolution, they think they can conquer the Middle East. They know they can’t in direct warfare because of the Iran-Iraq war and operation preying mantis. So they are a country that influences and uses proxies and uses qods forces. frick these guys. They are a lying country that hides behind shadows to get their ways. Stop this deal.
Posted by OnTheLevel State Fan
Member since Jul 2017
871 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 4:58 pm to
Not to mention all those US troops that were killed and maimed by ieds supplied by iran,never should have been a deal in the first place.
Posted by burdhead
WOMP WOMP!!
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 4/30/18 at 4:58 pm to
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The name Iran translates to Aryan. Germany helped give them this name because they wanted access to the Caspian Sea and Arabian Gulf. Much of their people think they are the original aryan race and because of that, and with the Islamic revolution, they think they can conquer the Middle East. They know they can’t in direct warfare because of the Iran-Iraq war and operation preying mantis.
Posted by Buckwheat35
Member since Apr 2018
260 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 5:06 pm to
I honestly could give a shite of theu conquer a damn thing in the ME. As long as they know not to frick with any americans or american property (looking at you Obama), we good.

We can do business. I am tired of us feeling the need to suck every saudi, qatari israeli, jordani, etc'eri dick while the country goes to shite as a commie superstate.


Here come the fear mongerers to tell us Iran will "wipe us off the planet if we dont wipe them out first!"
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126269 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 5:10 pm to
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They know they can’t in direct warfare because of the Iran-Iraq war and operation preying mantis.


Name one ME country who could stop Iran without using nukes in modern warfare.
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 5:10 pm to
Iran is being methodical in their twilight war. They want to control the strait of Hormuz and Bab Al Mendab (40% of trade). Now they want to help Syria so they get access to the med. on top of that having natural gas resources in the Caspian. You cool with them shutting off all world trade?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87883 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 5:20 pm to
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Name one ME country who could stop Iran without using nukes in modern warfare.


Isreal
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
40183 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 5:22 pm to
LOL - No they can’t
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 5:24 pm to
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Here come the fear mongerers to tell us Iran will "wipe us off the planet if we dont wipe them out first!"



What the frick does this have to do with staying in a stupid deal?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126269 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 5:27 pm to
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Isreal


Yet again looks like you should not be taken seriously when talking about the ME.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87883 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 5:32 pm to
When was i ever taken serious about the ME

Sorry you are mad about isreal
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
24423 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 5:32 pm to
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LOL - No they can’t


Israel would have air superiority and better weaponry/armored personnel. Iran would only have the upper hand on amount of troops, and that can be neutralized. So not sure why you’re laughing, unless you know something we don’t?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
37829 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 5:41 pm to
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This point is fricking stupid. The name Iran translates to Aryan. Germany helped give them this name because they wanted access to the Caspian Sea and Arabian Gulf. Much of their people think they are the original aryan race and because of that, and with the Islamic revolution, they think they can conquer the Middle East. They know they can’t in direct warfare because of the Iran-Iraq war and operation preying mantis. So they are a country that influences and uses proxies and uses qods forces. frick these guys. They are a lying country that hides behind shadows to get their ways. Stop this deal.



What does their relationship with Nazi Germany have to do with war? The etymology of the word "Iran" comes from the Sassinid period, and has been used internally since that point, and probably before. People inside the country have been calling the country "Iran" well before 1935.

While Iran did want to export the Islamic Revolution, they received massive pushback. This is best exemplified by its relations with Azerbaijan, the other majority Shia country in the world, which turned to Turkey rather than Iran as a major trading partner after the fall of the Soviet Union. At the time Iran thought it would be easy to export the revolution, but they were proved wrong, in war by Iraq and in diplomacy by Azerbaijan.

My view is that Iran's geopolitical positions would be the same even if the government was secular and within the US's orbit. They have used a variety of methods of gaining support of proxies, with one method being the protection of Shia shrines, which made them the protector of the oft-persecuted Shia, and another method being support of the Palestinians. Sanctions haven't allowed them to build their regular forces, so they've focused on irregular and asymmetric warfare, and have done remarkably well, all things considered. Hence why the proxy warfare of the Syrian conflict played into their hands.

Iran's tone as of late has become conciliatory. This clip is from a few days ago. LINK

Quite a bit of Iran's gains in the ME have come from poor diplomacy on the part of other Arab countries, as many of Iran's allies were courted primarily through diplomacy, as the Shia axis did not exist to this degree, or as strongly, up until the last couple of years. For example, in 2006, Iran didn't directly fund Hezbollah as they do now, and Hezbollah and other Shia militias resented the fact that Iranians did not sacrifice to the same degree as other Shia groups. Those fissures were as recent as 2015. Many of the problems have been smoothed over, but finally the KSA has done things like promise funding in Iraq, things which can drive a wedge into these alliances.

But the suggestion that there is a link between being "Aryan," and conquering the ME, isn't based on reality, as Shia politics is far more important than ethnicity, as that politics, by its nature, deals with a wide variety of groups (Pakistanis, Afghans, Indians, Iraqis, Syrians, and Lebanese).
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
37829 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 5:50 pm to
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Israel would have air superiority and better weaponry/armored personnel. Iran would only have the upper hand on amount of troops, and that can be neutralized. So not sure why you’re laughing, unless you know something we don’t?



Neither Iran nor Israel want open warfare. Israel doesn't want to commit resources unless absolutely necessary, and the downside of having so much war by their doorstep is that numerous groups have emerged that are good at fighting, among them Israeli enemies like the SAA and Iranian proxies. Iran doesn't want to go into open warfare because sanctions have put them at a major technological disadvantage, so they've focused on various asymmetrical measures where they've become quite adept.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 5:53 pm to
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Name one ME country who could stop Iran without using nukes in modern warfare.


Israel, absolutely.

Possibly Saudi Arabia as well.
Posted by cr32pll29
Member since Apr 2017
500 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 5:56 pm to
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Possibly Saudi Arabia as well.



Saudi Arabia can`t even deal with Yemen.
This post was edited on 4/30/18 at 6:09 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126269 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 6:05 pm to
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Israel, absolutely.


Nope but it would be a hell of a fight
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Possibly Saudi Arabia
no fricking chance

Probably the most unprofessional modern military in the world
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 6:06 pm to
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ran is being methodical in their twilight war. They want to control the strait of Hormuz and Bab Al Mendab (40% of trade). Now they want to help Syria so they get access to the med. on top of that having natural gas resources in the Caspian. You cool with them shutting off all world trade?




what a rube ...
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 6:07 pm to
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They know they can’t in direct warfare because of the Iran-Iraq war and operation preying mantis.


Name one ME country who could stop Iran without using nukes in modern warfare.


israel would stomp a mudhole in iran's arse ...
Posted by cr32pll29
Member since Apr 2017
500 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 6:12 pm to
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israel would stomp a mudhole in iran's arse ...



Not if they are by themselves, they rely heavily on the US help, military and economically.
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