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re: OTD in 1865, Gen. Lee gave his sword to Gen. Grant

Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:21 am to
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
3244 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:21 am to
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The Confederacy wasn’t going to win a stalemate, the outcome would have been the same because the Union could afford a stalemate, the Confederacy couldn’t.


What? A stalemate would have been the Union calling off the dogs and saying go be your own country, we can't stop you.

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The Confederacy wasn’t going to win a stalemate
this implies the Confederacy would have had to invade and defeat the north. That was never going to happen. A stalemate was their only chance and Lee played it wrong.

Lee needed 2 for 1 casualties (like Grant achieved in the western campaign) to have a chance. Instead, he racked up bloody battle after bloody battle then didn't have the manpower to win a war of attrition.

Lee was good. But if he was the best he would have won. All I'm saying.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:26 am to
You know what I meant, a defensive war, much like WWI. If the war bogged down and the south stopped attacking, they would’ve had literally zero chance at winning the war. With them attacking, it still wasn’t great but it was a helluva lot better than going defensive. Hell, the Union probably wanted the Confederates to go defensive because then they could use their numbers to squeeze the life out of them.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27880 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:06 pm to
The Confederacy was toast staring in 1862 when Farragut sailed up the Mississippi, blasted his way past Forts St. Philip and Jackson and trained his guns on the the levees in NOLA coupled with the Union being able to land a huge army at Shiloh and run pretty much unmolested in that area, not to mention the fact that the Union had possession of Nashville at that time.

When your opponent can bottle up the largest port and land troops en masse, in the center of your country, you cannot win the war nor can you hope for stalemate. Lee should have gone to Jefferson Davis and said, "Go make a deal with Mr. Lincoln.

If that did not make you think as the Confederate braintrust, then the fall of Vicksburg coupled with the loss at Gettysburg should have been like scalding hot coffee in your face
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