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re: Lets talk about the housing bubble
Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:41 pm to BeefDawg
Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:41 pm to BeefDawg
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Banks and lenders aren’t handing out interest only ARM’s with giant balloons to anyone with a 450+ credit score anymore.
Great post, but this is the only thing I would argue against.
Granted the banks aren't doing the interest only ARM with balloons, but they damn sure are doing $350K+ loans to a combined income of $80K, less than stellar credit score, and very little money down. This crap is still ubiquitous and will put a strain on the bubble eventually.
Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:43 pm to CFDoc
this is why I live at sea.
Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:56 pm to CFDoc
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Granted the banks aren't doing the interest only ARM with balloons, but they damn sure are doing $350K+ loans to a combined income of $80K, less than stellar credit score, and very little money down. This crap is still ubiquitous and will put a strain on the bubble eventually.
I get ya, but lenders are still basing decisions on debt-to-loan ratios and not giving loans to folks above a realistic threshold in relation between income vs debt with the new potential loan this time.
They weren’t doing that before. In fact they were allowing people to have a negative DtL ratio and still qualify. It was nuts.
A certain percentage of defaults are going to happen. The problem before 2008, however, is they were happening at 4-5x the historical deviation rate and then being hidden in tranches sold to federally funded organizations.
You can’t get a loan right now unless your net minus debt is more than 1.5x your loan premium. The only people skirting this are folks who have hidden debt from the lender.
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