re: OK so you don't Like "O". Answer the questions logically so I can begin to understand

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We traveled to Alabama about 1972 or three and watched The Bear coached Tide beat our Tigers 30 to nothing. No one could beat the Bear back them. Help Mac pack is all we heard. Whining was alive even back then. But we still backed our Tigers. Watching them lose for years under Hallman and a string of other coaches didn't dampen our support. We have watched many losing Tiger teams. Back in the day, an 8 win season would have made most people happy and any bowl was a big thing back then. Beating Wyoming in a bowl one year was a beautiful thing. We weren't spoiled little cry babies that think every year if we don't win the SEC or national championship that we are somehow failures. Back the team. All this negativity hurts our look as fans. This generation has destroyed the true spirit of Tiger stadium. Can't stay past halftime. Sickening.

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Start that rant at the spring of 1982 and I'm 12 and I'm right there with you...except I happen to think that what we've done to ourselves with this coaching hire and what he has done thus far and continues to do is sending us back to the days when we all HOPED to be better than what we were. That doesn't mean I did not love being a fan then...loving it when our Tigers jumped into the conversation for a bit...seeing them potentially climb into the Top 15 in my weekly SI magazine, etc. Those were incredible times and being a fan THEN was assuredly different. We were fans for reasons OTHER THAN just winning. and I agree, there are some in our fan base, and most of them are younger which is not their fault at all, whose reasons for being an LSU fan revolve almost entirely on pulling for a winner because it's literally all they've known.

But which do you rather? Pining away hoping to one day reach that elite status we envied in Notre Dame, or Nebraska, or Oklahoma, or Alabama, etc or being in that group ourselves? Everything in our program changed that night of January 4th 2004. It was no longer a dream...we'd made it. I remember standing there in the terrace in tears thinking about how my Dad had died a year before and missed it...thinking of all those games and times we'd talked about one day getting to that point. Of being in the Dome with him years before getting beaten by Nebraska...again.

And do you remember what Saban said when asked shortly after on the sidelines what he was going to do next? I'm paraphrasing but it was essentially, "Start working to do it again next year."

You may disagree...but for most of us that's literally all we're trying to do. Stay here. Getting here was hard. All those years you described, while great in their own ways, were not comparable to ACTUALLY being part of the elite and you know it. So for many of us, even those of us with time frames longer than many of the kids you seem to be describing, the goal is to remain in contention and there are good reasons to be worrying aloud that the moves we've made over the past year are reversing our course back to those days where you needed to search for silver linings in order to find wonderful things to love about the program. Oh...should the day come that we fall back entirely to the pack and we're forced to do that again, I'll do the same and find my silver linings. I'm an LSU fan...it's how I got started with this.

In the meantime, though, I'm going to fight like hell to stop the slide I think we've hopped onto, regardless of how much you r others attempt to pretend the only people sending up warning flares are either children or malcontents. Like you've I've earned the right to voice my concerns over many slim years of being a fan.

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