re: Is Brady already the GOAT?

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See what I'm getting at here? You're just arguing with me for the sake of arguing, and that's kind of the point.

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Actually that wasn’t my intention. I would actually argue Montana and definitely Brady are better passers than Elway. They won more because they played for better franchises.

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One could argue, however, that the QB also controls winning more than any other single player on the field.

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This to me is part of the problem. Of course its true, but there’s still way too much that’s beyond the QBs control that determines the outcome of the game. The game tonight is a great example. Brady throws for 505 with no INTs, they didn’t even punt and still lost.

Or look at the end of SB XXV compared to XXXVI. Like Brady Jim Kelly drove his team down for a game winning FG. The difference is Norwood missed and Vinateri made it. Would you think less of Brady if Carroll runs Lynch instead of passing and Sea wins that one? Or if Atlanta doesn’t go brain dead and runs to set up and makes a FG to go up by 11 late in the 4th? What Brady did to come back was amazing but he still needed help from his D and the Atlanta coaches. Frank Reich lead a Big come back in the playoffs