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re: Where would we be as a country if 9/11 didn’t happen and we didnt go to war?

Posted on 12/19/17 at 10:25 am to
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 10:25 am to
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That makes no sense, especially when you consider we're the ones placing the puppet governments around the world.



I’m not disagreeing with you. I’m saying if it wasn’t us it would be Russia or China doing the same to us. That’s what the Cold War was. A geopolitical posturing race post WWII. If we are not involved in WWII it’s even easier for whoever would have come out on top

China was behind the 8 ball not really being an industrial power in WWII. Hence being boxed in by the victor in the post war power struggle.
By that logic, one would conclude that Pearl Harbor and 9/11 were good things for America, because it forced us to wield our power globally.

I'm not on board with that at all.
Posted by VirgilCaine
Orchard Park
Member since Dec 2010
2871 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 10:27 am to
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By that logic, one would conclude that Pearl Harbor and 9/11 were good things for America, because it forced us to wield our power globally.



I don't think anyone considers those singular events as "good" (unless you're a gov spook who knows that they were false flags).

However, I think you can look at history and say that those events led to net positives for American society.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 10:27 am to
I’m not giving you my opinion on right or wrong, just my opinion on how things work.

Just imagine if the US cut our military budget, with it our assets, in half over night. Russia and China would immediately start expanding their presence / influence and the EU nations budgets would shoot up to counter. There is a stalemate / balance, it’s not “if we weren’t doing xyz” that xyz would no longer exist

Russia had bases being built in Cuba and nukes off the coast when we had our blockade. Those behind the scenes political battles are going on in their hemisphere not ours right now, we are fortunate. They will never end though, and and every inch given will be taken until it’s on our doorstep if we let it

IMO
This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 10:37 am
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