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re: I heard on the radio this morning coach O wanted to go back to pro style
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:13 am to TH03
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:13 am to TH03
quote:Uh, you made it sound like O knows nothing and Canada knows everything. And if that's the case, yeah, you go with Canada. But it's not that simple and you know.
That’s...not what a straw man is at all.
quote:I've argued with O haters over this point back and forth. They either hate him because he knows nothing yet has input or they hate him because he knows nothing and has to rely on his coordinators. You can't have it both ways. You can't tear him down as a head coach when things go bad and then say it's all the coordinators when things go well.
If the rumors were that Canada wanted one thing, orgeron wanted another, and they compromised then that means the guy who has zero offensive background doesn’t want to let his coordinator do what he does best.
Do you think Canada had complete, total control those last 7 games when everything was going so well? Do you think Aranda gets total control?
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:21 am to ell_13
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Uh, you made it sound like O knows nothing and Canada knows everything. And if that's the case, yeah, you go with Canada. But it's not that simple and you know.
Okay and? That's not a strawman in the slightest. A strawman would be if I created an argument that you never made then argued against that made up position.
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They either hate him because he knows nothing yet has input or they hate him because he knows nothing and has to rely on his coordinators. You can't have it both ways.
Yes you can though. If he has to rely on his coordinators 100% he should not have the input he was rumored to have had in the Troy game.
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You can't tear him down as a head coach when things go bad and then say it's all the coordinators when things go well.
Now this is the strawman you're talking about since I never made this argument. Of course he deserves credit. It's not like a phone book is our head coach and the coordinators run the show 100%.
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Do you think Canada had complete, total control those last 7 games when everything was going so well? Do you think Aranda gets total control?
I think aranda probably does. That guy is a genius. I'm sure O had input on the offense, but in a limited sense. I don't think he's anywhere near calling plays or anything remotely like that.
My issue is not gameday, it's off-season when we have to hire a new OC and orgeron is a chameleon because he doesn't have a specific offensive identity.
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