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re: Conservative Christians rally around persecuted Judge Roy Moore

Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:38 am to
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:38 am to
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It was on the 5 cent coin long before "In God We Trust" was adopted as the national motto in the 50's. The motto was on the currency and when the motto changed, the currency was updated to reflect that.



First appeared on coins in 1864, almost a century after the country was founded. We put it on there around the time of the Civil War because a lot of religious citizens essentially demanded it. There was no precedent for it at the time.

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Like I said, it's our national motto. That's why it's on our currency. Maybe we don't have to have our national motto on our currency, but it's not exactly a forced application.


It was forced upon the currency. That's exactly what happened.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41812 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:44 am to
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First appeared on coins in 1864, almost a century after the country was founded. We put it on there around the time of the Civil War because a lot of religious citizens essentially demanded it. There was no precedent for it at the time.
I'm glad you were willing to concede that it didn't originate in the 1950's, so that's a start

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It was forced upon the currency. That's exactly what happened.
I think you mistake my meaning. When I said "it's not exactly a forced application", I mean that the motto is not out of place by being put on the currency. Our previous motto was on our currency prior to being changed, so it's not like in the 50's, some religious politicians came up with a brand new way to get God's name out there by doing something unprecedented in putting the updated motto on our currency. It had been done before even when that phrase wasn't our national motto, so the application (like I said) was not forced.

In the grand scheme of things, what is on our currency doesn't really make a difference. The value is the same whether the motto is there or not. It's symbolic only, and in that regard, we could put anything we wanted to on it. People have been talking about updating the people who are on our currency for years, trying to symbolize our diversity or whatnot. I like having "In God We Trust" on the currency but I wouldn't be too upset if it were removed; it might be more in-line with the godlessness that is becoming more prevalent in our nation anyway if it were gone.

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