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re: Catalonia region of Spain (Barcelona) has voted to declare independence from Spain

Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:03 pm to
Posted by cupchu1
Member since Aug 2012
419 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:03 pm to
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That's not to mention the fact that there were multiple reports that people were just voting over and over again. Even the "observers" confirmed that there was an extended period where their electronic lists were unavailable, and they had a two hour window after the poll close to try and remove multiples.


Yeah, there's a town with about 400 residents that recorded over a thousand votes. A city official also created a wordpress blog to record votes. Some were told to print ballots and drop them off, no ID or voter registration needed. You could go from polling station to polling station putting votes in.

It sounds ridiculous, but this is the narrative Catalonia wanted. Of course turn out was poor, and of course the only people who did show up to vote were in favor of independence. International media jumped all over the photos of police using force, which Catalonia is happy to show to the world as evidence of Madrid impeding democracy. They don't mention that a region in Spain is not legally allowed to vote on leaving, or that in 1978 Catalonia overwhelmingly ratified the Spanish constitution.

It's hard to have a conversation about it here without risking being called a fascist or a traitor. Politics is still a very touchy subject in Spain, since Franco died not too long ago. Remember, they became a democracy in 1978...
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:12 pm to
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since Franco died not too long ago


Yeah, and Franco stripped Catalan of its autonomy in 1938 and the Spanish courts and government have been blocking restoration ever since. So since you are supporting Franco's position on this I see why you are concerned about being misconstrued.
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