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re: You didn't build that

Posted on 9/26/17 at 8:08 pm to
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 8:08 pm to
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This is asinine. Everyone in this country enjoys the benefits of roads and bridges and a strong military. Not just the successful.


You are 100 % correct. Would that more on the right were man enough to have admitted this when they were apoplectic over Obama pointing this out by saying "you didn't build that".

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The poor get these exact same "advantages." Ironically, it is actually the taxes of the successful that in large part finance these things you claim they didn't build. Their efforts literally did "build that." The unsuccessful masses, who you insinuate are somehow not getting the credit they deserve for the success of the wealthy, by and large receive the full benefit of the supporting infrastructure for a proportionally much smaller contribution. They literally "didn't build that."



Again you are 100% correct. Where you are dead wrong is that these things are built by EVERYONE's taxes, the successful, those of us in the middle, and even the poor who pay sales tax, payroll taxes and and property taxes. Poor people also include soldiers and policemen. Finally the ranks of the successful and the poor are dynamic....lots of very successful people today were poor as dirt yesterday and were aided by the successful so they could become successful. The GI bill is a great example. Student loans, food stamps, social security for the disabled and the orphaned....all examples of poor people being helped along the road to success.

Just the opposite is also true. Many successful peopl find themselves on hard times, often times through no fault of their own....and these peopl are also aided by all of us.

None of us is an island. We have all been blessed to be born or naturalized or allowed to live and work in the greatest nation and system man has ever known. None of us did any of that on our own....we all enjoy what we have thanks to many others. This is why I personally stand during the national anthem. Were I told I had to stand because it was expected of me I would probably do it BUT it wouldn't mean nearly as much to me.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Member since Sep 2003
125461 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 8:10 pm to
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You are 100 % correct. Would that more on the right were man enough to have admitted this when they were apoplectic over Obama pointing this out by saying "you didn't build that".
Who did build that?
Posted by DaGarun
Smashville
Member since Nov 2007
26226 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:11 pm to
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You are 100 % correct. Would that more on the right were man enough to have admitted this when they were apoplectic over Obama pointing this out by saying "you didn't build that"

No one seriously disputes that public works are paid for by all and generally benefit all. Where I part ways is when many on the left seem to think this gives some a claim on the efforts of another.

Let's say you and I were neighbors and we built a bridge together. Every morning we both set off toward the bridge. I stop halfway across and throw a line in the water to catch a fish to feed my family. You continue walking and build a business in the city across the river that we could not reach before the bridge. After years of struggle and hardship, your business becomes successful and you become rich. I am healthy, more than a little sick of fish, but not rich.

Under no circumstance do you owe me anything. I have no claim on your wealth. None. Not because we built a bridge together at least.
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