re: How much has Guice & Key's stock dropped with both having crappy starts??..

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Squats don't = cardio you remedial. You get out of shape for one reason. You are at a caloric surplus. For the simple folk, that means you are taking in more calories than you burn. Regardless of his shoulder, he had himself a pity party and let himself get out of shape. He could do a multitude of cardio exercises with his shoulder banged up. He chose not to.

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If you believe a football player with the height of 6'6" will get into "shape" by just doing cardio, you're sadly mistaken. Actually probably would have lost a good bit of muscle mass. So moral of the story is he just wasn't on a good diet being away from camp and in rehab.