1. He deserves a chance to construct a program from a 8-9 wins to a championship contender. That will take 2-3 years. Just look at the lack of O & D linemen and you realize the truth in that.
2. Saturday was a confluence of the worst possible scenarios. Couldn't happen again. Injuries, penalties, bad calls, drops, missed assignments, Mullen & Grantham being on point. Everything worked for MSU and against us.
3. Don't care how good you are if you only have 3 DLinemen, and one is inexperienced, you probably aren't going to win. Eventually they will wear you down and if nothing else pound the rock & beat you.
4. Dropping open passes isn't O's or Canada's fault.
5. Horrible eye discipline (most people on TD don't even understand this) isn't Aranda's fault.
6. Having too few OL's and DL's isn't O's fault. Recruiting coordinator doesn't make the decision on how many of each position to ultimately offer. He can only be held responsible for one recruiting class (current Freshman). Probably should have gotten some JuCos at both positions (his fault).
7. Give O some time. I would have preferred a big name coach too. But we didn't pass on Herman, he JILTED US. Jimbo SAID NO. Alleva chose not to go after Mullen or some other lesser known names. That's on him. Give him some time.

Canada's offense is puzzling. With a suspect O line, we stayed tight all night and tried to run inside. I believe that Matt adapts well to personnel and circumstance (Cam did neither) and O stays out of his business. But I would have thought he would have spread the field (F in slot, 3 wide, wider splits) to get better angles and more chance to run inside if that is what he thought we could do. And why no shotgun quick passes to avoid the rush? I'm sure he had reasons but looks like we stayed with same strategy most of the night. On the other hand, when you drop 3rd down passes that would have continued the drive and go 3 & out, there is no reason to change the strategy. just need to execute the play.

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Posted by therick711

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Posted on 9/18/17 at 1:37 pm to LongTime Tiger

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Just look at the lack of O & D linemen and you realize the truth in that.

I think the problem O has is he can't claim he didn't get to shop for the groceries in this specific job. He was a part of the junior class that is playing right now.

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Posted by wildtigercat93

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Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:16 pm to LongTime Tiger

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1. He deserves a chance to construct a program from a 8-9 wins to a championship contender. That will take 2-3 years. Just look at the lack of O & D linemen and you realize the truth in that.

Coach O has been our recruiting coordinator the previous two years and he promised we wouldn't be in a rebuild if he got the job. Keep moving the goal posts.

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njuries, penalties, bad calls, drops, missed assignments

I was told that O would never stand for a team to come out larthagic and would never struggle against the less talented teams. All of these things you mention outside of injuries are all coaching. Good coaching instill that disciple to stop these things from happening. You might have an argument except these things have happened for 3 weeks straight now. We are in the top 3 in the country for most penalties. Who else can you put the blame on for that consistent problem of disciple?

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3. Don't care how good you are if you only have 3 DLinemen, and one is inexperienced, you probably aren't going to win. Eventually they will wear you down and if nothing else pound the rock & beat you.

Easier to have depth on defense whenever your players aren't getting kicked out of the game for undisciplined play. And tell me who recruited these players again? Ed fricking Oregeron.

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4. Dropping open passes isn't O's or Canada's fault.

Poor offensive exsecution is deffinitly their fault. It's amazing how everything fell on Miles lap when we lost, but with O anything that goes wrong is the players fault.

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Recruiting coordinator doesn't make the decision on how many of each position to ultimately offer. H

That's literally the definition of that job title.

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Give O some time. I would have preferred a big name coach too. B

He's the one who promised the moon to get the job. Why should we change the standards now? We just fired a coach for only winning 8-10 games a year and now we're supposed to be okay with winning 6-8 games a year?

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But we didn't pass on Herman, he JILTED U

Our AD hung up on the phone after Herman sent a counter offer. He pouted and decided to hire a DL coach. That doesn't absolve O for being a shitty coach. We never seriously considered anyone else but O. Alleva wanted O from day 1.

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