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re: Historical monuments okay or not

Posted on 8/15/17 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 1:21 pm to
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grew up in South Carolina and don't recall seeing any statues that honored Native Americans who killed people. Is this common where you're from?


Uhhhhhh.... There are monuments across the states....

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mean imagine not just deciding to be a traitor, but doing so to preserve slavery. Jesus Christ what a frick up by Lee


Slavery was completely normal then. You're letting your current world opinion on slavery cloud your judgement.

What does taking the statues down do to better the African American community?

Is it just a feel good sentiment? If so, why not take down all slave owners statues?
Posted by WheelRoute
Washington, D.C.
Member since Oct 2013
1811 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 1:34 pm to
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Slavery was completely normal then. You're letting your current world opinion on slavery cloud your judgement.

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Slavery was completely normal then. You're letting your current world opinion on slavery cloud your judgement.



Well this simply isn't correct at all. Slavery wasn't "normal" in the U.S. and had reached a tipping point by the time of the war.

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What does taking the statues down do to better the African American community?



You got it backwards. It's helping the white community.

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Is it just a feel good sentiment? If so, why not take down all slave owners statues?



As I've already said: we judge people and their actions based on context. It's perfectly reasonable for the state to memorialize someone for their extraordinary deeds and then in books and museums make a record of their life that presents a fuller picture. A statue of Thomas Jefferson is not an endorsement of slavery any more than a statue of Ali is and endorsement of Islam. South Carolina has a statue of George Rogers outside our stadium, do you think we're celebrating his time with the Gamecocks and his Heisman trophy or do you think we're celebrating his arrest for the purchase of crack cocaine? Do you believe it's possible to separate the two?
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