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re: Just got through an inspection checkpoint, how are these constitutional again?
Posted on 7/29/17 at 12:22 pm to ChewyDante
Posted on 7/29/17 at 12:22 pm to ChewyDante
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So you don't have rights when you are driving? What the frick are you trying to say?
He's saying you're not born with the God-given right to drive a motor vehicle. You have to obtain a license from the state to do so. What's so hard to understand?
Posted on 7/29/17 at 1:11 pm to rmnldr
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He's saying you're not born with the God-given right to drive a motor vehicle. You have to obtain a license from the state to do so. What's so hard to understand?
Because in the context of this discussion, the complaint is about whether your God-given rights to not be subjected to unreasonable search and seizure, aka the 4th Amendment, are somehow rendered null and void on account that you are driving a vehicle. So to remark that, well, driving is just privilege, is to suggest that when you are engaged in a "privilege" that you are effectively forfeiting certain "rights." Which of course is a bit of a contradiction, don't you think?
That's kind of the whole crux of the debate. Does that not clarify the point of my inquiry?
Or do you honestly think I don't understand the difference between what is a right and a privilege? Do you think I contend that it is illegal for the state to suspend your driver's license? That would be not understanding the difference of a right and a privilege. But if you believe that, well, driving is simply a privilege therefore you can be subjected to state interference that would otherwise be a fundamental violation of your rights, then I would say that argument needs some substantive clarification. A bit more than simply saying:
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Driving is a privilege, not a right. Constitution protects rights.
Don't you think?
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