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re: U.S. Fighter Jet Shoots Down Syrian Government Plane

Posted on 6/18/17 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 7:58 pm to
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Navy needs to stick to getting destroyed by cargo ships and leave the air to air shite to the Air Force. Mission creep has caused them to be unreliable in their primary role


This may be the most ignorant post I've ever read.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:05 pm to
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Here is Col Bud Day


It turns my stomach reading that. I wish Americans were more in tune with what went in in SE Asia during that war. Those stories should be told far more often than they are.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73558 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:10 pm to
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Those stories should be told far more often than they are.
Concur wholeheartedly.

Here is a guy many outside USAF have never heard of, another of my heroes.

Lance P. Sijan one of the greatest.

LINK
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:11 pm to
I don't understand what SERE guys in the Air Force do. Are they just instructors?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73558 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:11 pm to
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It turns my stomach reading that. I wish Americans were more in tune with what went in in SE Asia during that war. Those stories should be told far more often than they are.
Now the ridicule them, like they did Admiral Stockdale, one of the badest of the bad.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73558 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:14 pm to
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I don't understand what SERE guys in the Air Force do. Are they just instructors?
They are the DOD Subject Matter Experts.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:16 pm to
Just skimmed the thread. We shittalking in here?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:17 pm to
The largest SERE Course and only career-long SERE Instructor cadre are located at the primary Air Force SERE training center which is at Fairchild Air Force Base, Washington; each USAF SERE Specialist (previously called Survival Instructor) goes to a selection course and if selected, then attends the famed USAF SERE Instructor Training Branch six-month course. Those that graduate (less than 15%) are awarded the Sage Beret and SERE Badge. Following ITB, the Specialists are tasked with 45 weeks of intensive on-the-job training to complete their skill levels. Each graduate must attend Airborne School at the US Army Training Center located at Ft. Bragg. After completion of four years as an Instructor (Field Training) the Specialist may be tasked to train students worldwide. Student training for Level "B" medical aircrew was conducted at Brooks City-Base, Texas until the planned course closure on 30 September 2009. The Air Force conducts Arctic Survival Training – Cool School at Eielson Air Force Base, Alaska, and Parachuting and Non-Parachuting Water Survival Training at Fairchild AFB, Washington. The parachute water survival training which used to be located in Florida ceased operations there in August 2015.
SERE training was also conducted at the US Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs from the late 1960s until 1995, enabling those USAF officers commissioned through USAFA to exempt from USAF SERE training at Fairchild AFB following undergraduate pilot or navigator training. In contrast, those USAF officers commissioned through AFROTC or OTS still had to complete SERE at Fairchild following flight training. In 1995, the resistance/escape element of the course at USAFA was abolished (see Controversies below), leaving the survival and evasion classes in a program called Combat Survival Training (CST). The academy discontinued CST entirely in 2005, however in summer 2008, some portions of the program, including resistance training, were reinstated. Following the summer of 2011, the scope of the CST program was reduced drastically and incorporated into the mandatory expeditionary skills training for budgetary reasons.[5] Now, all USAFA graduates selected for pilot, air battle manager, or navigator training must complete SERE training at Fairchild after receiving their wings, along with their AFROTC and OTS graduate counterparts.
USAF SERE Specialists are considered DOD-wide subject matter experts in their field. USAF SERE Specialists are assigned to base level and to command staff as advisors. USAF SERE are the only Test Parachutists in the Department of Defense. They test all new parachute systems and evaluate all flying platforms for suitability in DOD operations.
This post was edited on 6/18/17 at 8:19 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73558 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:17 pm to
Grab a beer GT we are in fact shitting the bull.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:18 pm to
Murika!
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:21 pm to
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USAF SERE are the only Test Parachutists in the Department of Defense. They test all new parachute systems and evaluate all flying platforms for suitability in DOD operations.
Yeah frick that
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
35080 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:22 pm to
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They were too close for missiles. Had to switch to guns.


Nothing like an old-fashioned gun kill!
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73558 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:27 pm to
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Yeah frick that
No idea, what the wiki thing says.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:29 pm to
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Navy needs to stick to getting destroyed by cargo ships and leave the air to air shite to the Air Force. Mission creep has caused them to be unreliable in their primary role


If anything, Naval Aviation has made the AF redundant.

I think you're just melted up because the Navy/USMC got a A2A kill.
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
73558 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:31 pm to
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I think you're just melted up because the Navy/USMC got a A2A kill.
He is too stupid to know A2A.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
35080 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:32 pm to
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"Rocky" Versace


Brother of college and NBA coach Dick Versace.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
35080 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:36 pm to
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Robin Olds


Do you have his book Fighter Pilot ?

Awesome guy.
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
73558 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:38 pm to
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Do you have his book Fighter Pilot
Of course!
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
35080 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:42 pm to
Great book. One of the co-editors, Ed Rasimus, was also a Viet Nam combat pilot. His books about his own experiences are great, too.
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
73558 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:43 pm to
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Ed Rasimus, was also a Viet Nam combat pilot.
Name of the books?
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