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Posted on 6/14/22 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by Lawyered
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 3:07 pm to
Oh interesting choice, I wonder how differently biased it is covering the crusades from the Islamic angle .

As for me- I just started San Fransicko- how progressives ruin cities
Posted by Telos
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 5:33 am to
De re publica - Cicero
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 6/18/22 at 12:21 am to
quote:

Oh interesting choice, I wonder how differently biased it is covering the crusades from the Islamic angle .


I’m about halfway through. I love the subject matter and I’m enjoying the presentation. One thing I’m not sure if is what parts are from Islamic sources and what aren’t. It could be that I’m listening to the audiobook and missing out on footnotes, I don’t know. But he gives nice narratives about events, and I appreciate how he doesn’t only focus on the Levantine but also talks extensively about other war fronts such as Sicily and Spain. But my issue is his narrative doesn’t always seem, or at least it’s not clearly evident to me, to come from Islamic sources. He will sometimes mention what a specific Islamic source says about an event—but this makes me wonder about all the narrative he’s giving that he doesn’t mention the source.

His book may include footnotes that clarify, or perhaps the Islamic sources are simply too fragmented to form a coherent history, I don’t know. But what I’m trying to clumsily say is the book is interesting and it certainly does cite a lot of Islamic sources but I can’t always tell what parts are not coming from Islamic sources.

As far as the Muslims’ viewpoint, overall it seems the Muslims had a healthy respect for the fighting prowess of the Franks, and generally hated the Franks and considered jihad against the Franks to be utmost importance and a high honor. Everything that modern academia has come to hate about the Crusaders can be said about Muslims of the same era.

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