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Vaccines are tested. Vaccines are safe. Vaccine manufacturers can be sued so that any harm caused by their products is compensated. Vaccines are proven safe in pregnant women. The influenza vaccine is safe and effective (and you CAN make an effective vaccine against influenza, we do it most years).

Google what a safety test is. Then, find me one vaccine that was submitted for a safety test (not vs an old vaccine). I'll gladly wait for your response.

Heck, you even validated my point about not being about to go after vaccine makers for making bad products.

And no, you can't make an effective influenza vaccine. You have no understanding of how the influenza virus works and reproduces.

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Posted by Haughton99

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Member since Feb 2009

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Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:23 am to notsince98

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And no, you can't make an effective influenza vaccine. You have no understanding of how the influenza virus works and reproduces.

I'm gonna need your qualifications for making this statement.

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Posted by BamaAtl

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Member since Dec 2009

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Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:30 am to notsince98

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Then, find me one vaccine that was submitted for a safety test (not vs an old vaccine).

Are you dense? Here's a Phase II trial of the novel 2009 H1N1 influenza vaccine

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Heck, you even validated my point about not being about to go after vaccine makers for making bad products.

From the "About" page on the VICP page, which you clearly have never read:

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The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986, as amended*, created the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP), a no-fault alternative to the traditional tort system. It provides compensation to people found to be injured by certain vaccines. Even in cases in which such a finding is not made, petitioners may receive compensation through a settlement.

The VICP was established after lawsuits against vaccine manufacturers and healthcare providers threatened to cause vaccine shortages and reduce vaccination rates. The Program began accepting petitions (also called claims) in 1988.

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And no, you can't make an effective influenza vaccine

Last year's vaccine had a VE score of 59%. Every 4,000 people vaccinated prevents approximately 1 death.

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You have no understanding of how the influenza virus works and reproduces.

Please, Mr. vaccine denier, educate me on genetic shift and drift as it pertains to influenza. Start with the variations in hemagluttinin and neuraminidase receptors, and why only certain variants of these membrane glycoproteins can cause disease in humans.

I can't wait!