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re: Is there a secular argument against abortions?

Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:22 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:22 pm to
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Everyone has a position to defend.


Nope. I don't care if you agree with me. You need me to agree with you. Don't try to equate that.

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I've already done so for what I believe.


And it's no more effective than anything I've offered.

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Apparently I know more than you do since I accept a source document for God and accept the philosophical necessity of God that you seem to not have put much thought into.


That isn't knowledge. That's faith.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:38 pm to
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Nope. I don't care if you agree with me. You need me to agree with you. Don't try to equate that.
I don't need you to agree with me. Rational discourse requires rational arguments. You haven't provided that.

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And it's no more effective than anything I've offered.
Perhaps not more effective to you than anything you've offered, but I'm using reason and logic. You are sticking to "I don't know".

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That isn't knowledge. That's faith
Everything in this world is taken on faith to one degree or another, even the belief that the laws of causality and non-contradiction are unchanging. Those are the basis for everything we think we know in this world. You are still wanting to take on the subject of philosophy the same way you approach natural sciences. You want empirical evidence for a philosophical assertion when philosophy relies on the laws of logic.
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