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re: Is there a secular argument against abortions?

Posted on 5/4/17 at 4:03 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 4:03 pm to
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Incorrect, insofar as you accept your own worldview.
Would you care to officially specify the composition of your worldview? What are your fundamental assumptions that develop your understanding of the world we live in? I assume from previous discussions that you buy into evolutionary theory based on a naturalistic view of the world. I suppose you deny the existence of the supernatural and anything that is not part of the material world. I'm not sure what your religious views are but I would assume you are a secular humanist who believes humanity reaching its potential is the ultimate goal of life.

None of that allows for an objective standard for morality. If you believe differently, please fill me in so we can discuss how your thoughts on morality align with your stated worldview.

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"I don't know."
Not very helpful when you assert the possibility of an objective moral standard without even a hint of how that could be. You might disagree with the basis for my worldview but at least I have a cogent argument to give. I'm not sure but I think you're trolling now.

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No, they don't. It could come from anything.
Such as?

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William Lane Craig.
I had to google him as I haven't heard of him before, which is probably a fault on my part, but no, I'm not a fan of his. Thank you for clarifying.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73532 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 4:12 pm to
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Would you care to officially specify the composition of your worldview?


"I don't know."

I think it's quite a leap for anyone to claim objective moral authority from any source.

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Not very helpful when you assert the possibility of an objective moral standard without even a hint of how that could be.


No, it's more than sufficient relative to what you offer. Not that long ago, we didn't understand why something we tossed in the air came back down, and look at us now. "I don't know" is perfectly acceptable in this discussion.

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Such as?


"I don't know."

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I'm not a fan of his.


Then y'all have many common sources, because you have several arguments that mirror his.
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