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re: Gavin McInnes: Alt-right v. Alt-Lite
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:14 pm to Iosh
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:14 pm to Iosh
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Why is it inherently bad for people with significantly different genetic makeups to live together?
I think it leads to mimetic conflict, especially when combined with the Western idea of the equality of mankind. You see here that we can't even have a discussion about genetic differences (though I appreciate you listening to me instead of only immediately labeling me racist), and in America today you have this idea that "everybody can make it", and if you don't it used to mean you didn't try hard enough and now means that someone else was holding you down. But neither one of those is a fair reading of what's happening.
With diverse populations, you are going to have divergent results and class struggles. The more diverse, the more conflict, because there will be inequality of results regardless of effort. It is inevitable.
What do you think will really happen if we import millions of Africans? We already have highly segregated cities with people of moderate means leaving as quickly as they can while the elite live behind gates.
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:19 pm to uway
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What do you think will really happen if we import millions of Africans?
If we imported a couple million African infants, raised them in families that valued education and pushed them to achieve in the same way that typical middle to upper class Americans raise their children, then my prediction is that we would have a couple million more "successful", integrated, and happy Africans in 20 years or so.
If we took a couple million teenage through early adulthood Africans and plopped them on the streets...we'd have a couple of million new government dependents.
agree or disagree?
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:39 pm to uway
quote:Immigrants have a vastly different idea of "making it" than native-born populations. They're often happy simply making ends meet while not getting shaken down for bribes or hassled for their religion/politics. While I agree the idea that "everybody can make it" is a simplification, it's one that would exist independently of what level of immigration currently exists. To the extent it causes conflict, that conflict isn't from immigrants themselves, but from those who got left behind having an easy scapegoat.
I think it leads to mimetic conflict, especially when combined with the Western idea of the equality of mankind. You see here that we can't even have a discussion about genetic differences (though I appreciate you listening to me instead of only immediately labeling me racist), and in America today you have this idea that "everybody can make it", and if you don't it used to mean you didn't try hard enough and now means that someone else was holding you down. But neither one of those is a fair reading of what's happening.
With diverse populations, you are going to have divergent results and class struggles. The more diverse, the more conflict, because there will be inequality of results regardless of effort. It is inevitable.
What do you think will really happen if we import millions of Africans? We already have highly segregated cities with people of moderate means leaving as quickly as they can while the elite live behind gates.
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