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Posted on 4/1/17 at 6:11 am to
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58425 posts
Posted on 4/1/17 at 6:11 am to
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Other than being a couple of years older, nothing has changed, except my government decided to frick me in the arse.


Substitute any other word for the word healthcare and see if it makes sense,?
" Mr. American Citizen, you will now be mandated under the power of penalty from the IRS to buy a gym membership. Not only will every American be forced to buy this membership, but the fees for joining gyms will rise significantly and there will be less gyms to choose from. Besides paying a monthly fee for this membership, you will also have to pay a yearly deductible.
Now, for those of you that can't afford a gym membership because your company doesn't supply one or you are too poor, fear not, we will raise the membership fee on those who can pay so that your membership is either significantly reduced or in some cases, free! Oh, and did I mention that the lobbyists for the gyms are some of our biggest contributors, making sure that each American is forced to buy their product?!"
Great huh?!
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 4/1/17 at 7:54 am to
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Substitute any other word for the word healthcare and see if it makes sense,?
" Mr. American Citizen, you will now be mandated under the power of penalty from the IRS to buy a gym membership. Not only will every American be forced to buy this membership, but the fees for joining gyms will rise significantly and there will be less gyms to choose from. Besides paying a monthly fee for this membership, you will also have to pay a yearly deductible.
Now, for those of you that can't afford a gym membership because your company doesn't supply one or you are too poor, fear not, we will raise the membership fee on those who can pay so that your membership is either significantly reduced or in some cases, free! Oh, and did I mention that the lobbyists for the gyms are some of our biggest contributors, making sure that each American is forced to buy their product?!"
Great huh?!



You make a fantastic point for why the mandate is absolutely a must have element of any sort of healthcare reform.

Lets use your gym membership analogy....if using said membership was often the difference between life and death....a person would die without using it...and the gym owner let people use the gym who didn't have a membership because in our society (and any decent, civilized society) denying access to the gym because a person didn'y have the membership is bad juju...who do you think is going to pay for the non-members use of the gym? The gym owner? Not a chance....the gym owner is in no position to take the loss out of her end...no, the gym owner is going to pass that loss on to paying members. The paying member is going to foot the bill for the non-paying membet.

Now lets stop and thing for a moment and consider the non-members visit to the gym which, even in the simplest of needs for a work-out...can lead to tens of thousands of dollars in costs that the non-member can't pay and the provider must collect from paying members....pretty soon the paying member is being hit pretty hard...


So, lets look at a hypothetical...a dead beat, low life walking the dog dirty count of a woman brings a baby to the gym who is in dire need of a workout....if the baby ain't allowed to workout the baby will die...if you ask the paying members of the gym they will almost universally say that they are willing to pay a little extra so the baby can workout and not die...thats where we are as a society my friend...and even if the paying members turn their back on the work out needing baby because most likely they will never have to actually see the baby the gym provider is seeing the baby and it is much more difficult to tell it, in person, that it should have made better life choices and not come crawling out of the crotch of the low life scum who is its parents...


Health insurance and resulting health care is not any other product....it ain't anything at all like a pair of Rustler jeans at walmart because A) Rustlers don't potentially cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and B) no one is shocked when walmart refuses to allow people to walk into their store and steal a pair of jeans whereas most of us would be put off a little by a health care provider who did exactly that...as a society we kind of expect the provider to see the paying and the non-paying customer alike...and the paying customer is stuck with the bill at the end of the day....
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