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re: What would the current healthcare situation in America be if Obamacare wasn't passed?

Posted on 3/26/17 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58979 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 2:36 pm to
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Obamacare slowed premium increases. The saying that "obamacare caused the increased costs" is incredibly misleading and doesn't analyze the costs of healthcare prior to the ACA.


Unfortunately it is hard to say one way or the other. We only have speculation for both perspectives. We don't know what premiums would have done if left alone. They might have spiked....and they might have gone down.

You provided a link to two sources saying they backed up your point....and they might. I couldn't find where it said that premiums slowed down, but that could have been because i have a very short attention span for dry material like insurance premiums, etc.

I can say that my particular insurances went through the roof and my deductible did the same, though...but that does not mean that everybody's did.

With the media being as it is, I have gotten to the point that I don't rust any of the sources, unfortunately. Things have gotten so partisan nobody is even capable of telling us the truth anymore.
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 2:54 pm to
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Unfortunately it is hard to say one way or the other.


No it isn't.

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We only have speculation for both perspectives

No we don't. Only speculations for what would have happened had it not gone into effect. But we do have solid evidence and data that says it slowed premium growth.

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You provided a link to two sources saying they backed up your point....and they might

Two of the most respected analysis agency/organizations that have no partisan leanings. Kaiser Foundation is the premier health care NGO.

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Things have gotten so partisan nobody is even capable of telling us the truth anymore


Thats BS. Plenty of nonpartisan agencies and organizations provide good solid analysis for policies and programs. Perhaps you just don't want to hear what they have to say, which I am okay with, just as long as people admit it. Some people just like that Trump sticks his thumb in the eyes of the establishment, no matter the cost or damage, but at least they admit that.

But this distrust of fact, anti-intellectual strain in our society is beyond dangerous. That is how governments and societies falter and fail.

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