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re: Texas AG sued to keep a Bible quote in school. Now he’s troubled by Muslim prayers.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 11:30 am to buckeye_vol
Posted on 3/20/17 at 11:30 am to buckeye_vol
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Well one is required practice of an individual, the other is a non-required meeting of an organization.
So, if a student from Haiti that practices VooDoo, says he required to sacrifice a chicken, there would be no problem with the school providing that student a rood to do so?
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It's still not apples to apples. When it became a group of 90 students, it could be considered school sponsored. They weren't just participating in required religious practice, they were hold a group organized religious meeting.
It was their free time! You are just being obtuse, now. It was fre time, that the students decided they wanted to pray.
Let me understand this....10 Muslims can get up and go pray every day and that is ok. 90 Christians want to spend their free time to pray and that is not ok?
I'm speechless.
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though not voluntary religious activities by students.
And how is the 90 students wanting to pray during their free time not a voluntary religious activity?
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When it became a large event, then it became more of a school sponsored event.
So, in your opinion, what is the cutoff? Obviously not 10. So, if a school wants the chess club and only 10 students show up they cannot have the chess club because 10 is not enough students for it to be considered a school sponsored activity?
Dude. You are all over the place. The article plainly says that the students. of their own volition decided to spend their free time praying. the school did not encourage it. They discouraged it. So, your assertion that it was a school sponsored activity just doesn't hold water.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 11:47 am to DawgsLife
quote:No but in the Tinker case (free speech), SCOTUS has ruled that it can't prohibit unless it:
So, if a student from Haiti that practices VooDoo, says he required to sacrifice a chicken, there would be no problem with the school providing that student a rood to do so?
quote:Sacrificing a chicken would clearly be inappropriate.
materially and substantially interfere[d] with the requirements of appropriate discipline in the operation of the school
quote:It was their STUDY hall, but they weren't just praying, they were singing songs, etc. You could argue that should be acceptable (should have kept the lawsuit going), but it's not a required practice, and at some point the sheer size plays a role.
It was their free time! You are just being obtuse, now. It was fre time, that the students decided they wanted to pray.
quote:I'm saying that when it became that size, it became something that was not a private display, but a very public display.
Dude. You are all over the place. The article plainly says that the students. of their own volition decided to spend their free time praying. the school did not encourage it. They discouraged it. So, your assertion that it was a school sponsored activity just doesn't hold water.
Maybe the school was wrong, but it's not the same as a required religious practice. Besides, you're comparing one school to another, as if this means all schools are banning Christians and allowing Muslims to pray.
So even if the school in Colorado erred, that doesn't somehow mean the school in Texas with the Muslims should err as well, and probably more egregiously.
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