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re: Texas AG sued to keep a Bible quote in school. Now he’s troubled by Muslim prayers.

Posted on 3/20/17 at 11:20 am to
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 11:20 am to
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What difference does it make
Well one is required practice of an individual, the other is a non-required meeting of an organization.
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Ok. let's compare apples to apples, then
It's still not apples to apples. When it became a group of 90 students, it could be considered school sponsored. They weren't just participating in required religious practice, they were hold a group organized religious meeting.

And the lawsuit was eventually dropped. Christian teen in Colorado drops school prayer lawsuitAnd here is the pertinent difference you keep ignoring:
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Supreme Court rulings over the years have generally barred public school sponsored prayer as an “establishment of religion” prohibited by the First Amendment, though not voluntary religious activities by students.
When it became a large event, then it became more of a school sponsored event. Although, I would have liked to see a ruling.

Either way, it's not the same as students praying as part of a required religious practice.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 11:30 am to
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Well one is required practice of an individual, the other is a non-required meeting of an organization.


So, if a student from Haiti that practices VooDoo, says he required to sacrifice a chicken, there would be no problem with the school providing that student a rood to do so?

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It's still not apples to apples. When it became a group of 90 students, it could be considered school sponsored. They weren't just participating in required religious practice, they were hold a group organized religious meeting.



It was their free time! You are just being obtuse, now. It was fre time, that the students decided they wanted to pray.

Let me understand this....10 Muslims can get up and go pray every day and that is ok. 90 Christians want to spend their free time to pray and that is not ok?

I'm speechless.

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though not voluntary religious activities by students.


And how is the 90 students wanting to pray during their free time not a voluntary religious activity?

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When it became a large event, then it became more of a school sponsored event.

So, in your opinion, what is the cutoff? Obviously not 10. So, if a school wants the chess club and only 10 students show up they cannot have the chess club because 10 is not enough students for it to be considered a school sponsored activity?

Dude. You are all over the place. The article plainly says that the students. of their own volition decided to spend their free time praying. the school did not encourage it. They discouraged it. So, your assertion that it was a school sponsored activity just doesn't hold water.

Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 11:37 am to
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Either way, it's not the same as students praying as part of a required religious practice.


One more example of your double standard.

Christians are instructed to pray and to witness. How would you feel if Christians decided to pray in the middle of class or to witness to other students in the middle of class? Are you saying we should allow Muslims to practice their religion at school, but it is unacceptable for Christians to practice their religion? or Wiccans? VooDoo? Mormons? Where are you going to draw the line?
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 11:48 am to
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And the lawsuit was eventually dropped.


You forgot to mention that the school eliminated that free time altogether...and that they now allow the students to pray during their lunch period. Apparently they don't buy your argument that it appears to be school sponsored when it grows to be a large number of people.
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