re: So if Ed O goes 8-5 next year, will you guys still blame Les Miles

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We didn’t win because of Les. We won because we were loaded

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You prove your lack of football knowldge with this post.

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Now that gave the impression that Les was a good coach but he never was.

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Explain how Miles went to a shite Oklahoma State program that had 1 winning season in 13 years and had them winning 8&9 games. How did Oklahoma state go from getting recruiting classes in the 80's & 90's to having multiple top 25 classes?

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Meanwhile, after time that reality each season became more and more obvious

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You mean like having a better win loss record the last 5 years than Saban's tenure? If lsu was so set up in 2005 why did the best coach of our generation lose 3 games in year 5?

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Only people like you who never played football aren’t intelligent enough to see the obvious.

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I played football at a much higher level than you or anyone related to you. Try again.

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To you Les Miles could do no wrong

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Miles did plenty wrong and he was justly fired. That in no way means he wasnt a good coach.

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To people that played football, he was mediocre at best, which became more and more apparent until it could not be denied anymore.

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He was mediocre at best to football ignorant people that have no clue how hard it is to consistently win even 9 games every year. Do you realize tbat from 2009- 2013 only 4 programs in cfb won at least 9 games every year? Lsu was one of them. and again, i played football at a much higher level than you or anyone related to has

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t was the record and the false impression everyone had about Les Miles due to that record that kept up the recruiting

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So why did miles walk into a shite class in 2005? You know that class that only had 13 signings? We shouldbe been loaded since lsu recruits itself. You see its posters like you that have no clue about lsu's history that give lsu fans a bad name. You truly believe lsu recruits itself.
Why was miles able to get multiple top 25 classes at a program that had been getting classes in the 80's and 90's at Oklahoma state?

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Les Miles was no great coach

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Facts prove he was. Your proven ignorant opinion doesnt outweigh facts.

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He was a very lucky mediocre coach that was hired at the right place at the right time.

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Why did he have better success tha programs that recruit just as well as lsu?

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LSU won despite Les Miles

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your opinion thats proven ignorant.

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Had we hired a good head coach instead of Les Miles in 2005, we probably would have won one or two more National Championships during that same span of time if not more.

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Yeah if we had hired Meyer,Saban ,or Harbaugh sure. No other coach is a sure bet.
Its amazing how football ignorant posters like you dont realize that even the best coaches in cfb(harbaugh,meyer, and Saban) lose to an inferior team every year, yet think Miles losing 2 or 3 is some massive failure. Nick Saban is considered the best coach ever, he has by far the most talent and he loses to an inferior team every year yet dumbasses like you think lesser coaches like Miles losing 2-3 games is some massive failure.

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Well…let’s see, we won a national championship in 2003, and then 2004 was a rebuilding year,

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What? Rebuidling? Great programs reload. That what you claim saban left miles.


Look your opinion is that miles was a mediocre coach.
FACTS prove he was the most successful coach in lsu history.
Facts say he has the best win % inlsu history.
Facts say he the 7th best win % in sec history.
Facts say he has the #1 ooc win % in sec history.
Facts say during his tenure no program beat more ranked teams.
Facts say during his tenure no program was ranked in the top 25 more weeks.
Facts say he has the most top 25 finishes in lsu history.
Facts say he has the most top 20 finishes in lsu history.
Facts say he has the most top 15 finishes in lsu history.
Facts say he has the most top 10 finishes in lsu history.
Facts say he has the most top 5 finishes in lsu history.
HE ACCOMPLISHED ALL THOSE FACTS DURING THE MOST DOMINANT ERA OF SEC FOOTBALL EVER.

Im sure everyone on this planet would choose the above facts over the proven ignorant opinion of some dumbass named Space cowboy on an anonymous message board.
But hey im sure your opinion outwieghs facts somewhere, just not here little guy.

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Why did Miles lose to Tennessee at home in 2005 after leading at half 21 – 0?

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Maybe it had something to do with the biggest natural disaster in US history throwing off practice. Just maybe.
Why did Nick Saban lose to 2 sunbelt teams with sec talent? Why does the best coach of our generation with by far the best talent, lose to an inferior team every year?

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We didn't win because of Les. We won because we were loaded.

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So you're saying that all these young men committed to LSU to play football for a man that was a lousy coach?

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we won a national championship in 2003, and then 2004 was a rebuilding year, as we lost a ton of players off that National Championship team. You see Saban didn't have the luxury of being handed over a championship team like Les Miles was handed over in 2005.

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You've said that Saban lost 3 games in his 5th year at LSU because "we lost a ton of players off that National Championship team", yet you also say that "Les Miles was handed over a championship team in 2005"

So which is it? Was the roster depleted for the 2004 season? And if it was, how the hell did it become a championship team after a 3 loss season? It can't be both. Do you realize that LSU only signed 13 recruits for the 2005 season? And it sure as hell wasn't Nick Saban coaching those players for the 2005 season and beyond.

Hate Miles all you want. But you can't deny the record that Miles had while he was the head coach. Everything you've posted are your opinions. The stuff some of the other people have posted are actual facts. To argue that just shows your ignorance.