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re: Saints releasing Byrd
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:31 pm to bonethug0108
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:31 pm to bonethug0108
So you're saying this is a good move?
And yes I know how the cap works. I've been looking at 2017-18 for over a month now.
And yes I know how the cap works. I've been looking at 2017-18 for over a month now.
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:35 pm to tzimme4
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So you're saying this is a good move?
And yes I know how the cap works. I've been looking at it for over a month now.
No you clearly don't.
But I neither said it was a good nor bad move. I just said cap wise it makes total sense.
I'm not completely sold on Bell but he has shown promise, as did Harris.
The money could get us a much better player if spent right.
Byrd was far from advertised his whole time here.
Will Bell be better? I don't know. I don't see him being much of a drop of though.
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:35 pm to tzimme4
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So you're saying this is a good move?
We're saying that you have no understanding of what you're running your mouth about, and your logic makes zero sense.
Since the dead money is literally a sunk cost, you have to look at what the cost of Byrd is going forward in new money for 2017 and beyond.
Is Byrd worth the $3+ million we immediately get to spend in FA? If the answer isn't yes, you move on from him.
His signing bonus remaining on the cap is $8 million whether you keep him or not.
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And yes I know how the cap works. I've been looking at it for over a month now.
Keep looking
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:42 pm to tzimme4
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And yes I know how the cap works. I've been looking at 2017-18 for over a month now.
Well let's see what you've said so far:
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he dead money would be cut in half if they cut him next season.
Well that is false. It goes from $8m to $4.6m. The thing is, that money is already paid out. So it is really irrelevant to anyone wanting to have an actual logical discussion on this
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They save 3.2 million cutting him now and take 8 million in dead money (Pre June)
You take on $8 million in dead money whether it is pre-June 1st or not. The difference is that if we designate him as a post June 1st cut, we can spread out the cap hit.
Either way, we're not using the space designated in 2017 by a post-June 1st cut in FA unless we do a delayed signing like last year.
What we can use in FA is the $3.2 million in space
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They have 7 million in cap relief next season cutting him and cut the dead money in half.
Yea, that isn't how this actually works.
Guess what. We save the money in 2017 by cutting him this year too....
Even if it isn't a pre-June 1st cut (which would make zero sense with cap rollover from year to year, unless we need the space to sign players THIS year), we save:
2017: $3.2m
2018: ~ $7.9m
So we create ~$11.1m in cap savings over the next 2 years instead of the $7.1m we save in your scenario.
So here's the question: Is he worth the $3.2m (or more if you do a delayed signing)?
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 8:51 pm
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