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re: Interesting reddit thread on concentration camps from the Red Army perspective

Posted on 1/23/17 at 2:24 pm to
Posted by link
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 2:24 pm to
if you see any other cool threads on reddit, let us know
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 2:26 pm to
incase you're day was going as good as mine was...im going to just leave this right here..


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Knowing the Red Army was closing in, the SS gave the boilermen (?) [people operating the ovens] the order, to throw the prisoners, who were already emaciated to the point of looking like skeleton, into the crematorium alive. They wanted to get rid of the sick and weakened to cover up their tracks as fast as possible.
The boilermen looked surprised to see us officers and soldiers. They were strong people, mostly Kapos [prisoners forced to work in the camps]. They greeted us with shy smiles on their faces, a mix of happiness and fear. Like on command, they threw away their poker. With us, they talked freely. Angry words about Hitler were spoken. I still remember an old boilermen stammer “Thank you”. “Thank you, friend. May I call you [the Russians] friends?”.
One of them, a Ukrainian, I asked: “Why did you do that?” and pointed towards the ovens. Without blinking he replied: “They didn’t ask if I wanted to. No, I didn’t want to. But better be the guy working the oven, then be the one burning. That’s why I did it.” I was speechless, could just shake my head. “Why aren’t the other ovens burning? There’s no smoke coming up the chimney”, I asked the guy. “Deconstructed”, he said.
Caught in our own thoughts, everyone just stood around. Nobody cared about the burning ovens. “Stop this. Out! All of you!”, the commanding officer Sergejew shouted. Outside, he was shaking and said with a stuttering voice: “How can this be in the midst of the 20th century! I can’t comprehend this. If there’d be a god, maybe he could explain how this all came to be.”
We visited the barracks and couldn’t believe our own eyes. Naked and groaning people, hardly looking like humans, were laying on straw bags. I touched one of the people laying there. He didn’t move. He wasn’t alive anymore.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 2:43 pm to
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if you see any other cool threads on reddit, let us know
The Soviet Union was awesome!
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My wife grew up in the Soviet Union during the 1980's.
When I hear people from other countries try to tell her how horrible it must have been....
She only really keeps it to herself because people refuse to believe that she could have loved it.
That they had a diverse population which is almost never portrayed in western history books.
They are almost always portrayed a totally white society which is also not true.
They didn't have as much selection as we do now under capitalism, but...in the United States up until the 1980's Americans didn't have that much selection of different products/services either.
Capitalism just quietly kills people through poverty & other societal ills. It's like a constant almost dead silent genocide.
Here in 2017 we are having massive rallies for womens rights. In the 1960's women in the Soviet Union were already considered equals.
It wasn't even a question. Statues across the Soviet Union showed women & men working hand in hand to build a better society.

Now in Russia under capitalism, women have been treated beneath men since at least the 1990's.
I will never forget when my wife didn't understand how someone could be sleeping on the street & homeless. She didn't understand "Why they would choose to do that voluntarily".
She didn't realize that we don't have much of a system to prevent that from happening to our own citizens.
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