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re: Bill Nye the Science Guy wearing an LSU hat
Posted on 1/23/17 at 10:17 am to TigersFan64
Posted on 1/23/17 at 10:17 am to TigersFan64
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Not an opinion, an informed fact. I just listen to people who actually know what they are talking about who have no axe to grind, i.e. climate scientists who do this for a living (and not bought-and-paid-for whores of the fossil fuel industry such as James Inhofe who get hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from the oil and coal industries).
Any time somebody tells you the "science is settled" and no further questioning on the subject is permitted, you should immediately question what you are being told. At the very least look at it with a skeptical eye. You appear to be in intelligent fellow, just keep an open mind.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 10:35 am to KC Tiger
I 100% agree that it's healthy to keep an open mind and question scientific findings, even when there is an obvious consensus, as there is with climate change.
That said, how many times has the argument "I'm right and you're stupid" worked out for anyone? Does that typically encourage someone to put in a little personal research to challenge their own stance on something? I agree with the earlier notion that there are more adult ways to debate and far better methods of persuasion.
My research tells me there is, indeed, an overwhelming consensus that (1) climate change is real and (2) humans are a major factor in it, but the worst thing that could possibly have happened regarding the threat of climate change and the need to address it is that it got politicized. I'm conservative, and I'm christian, so within my own social circles I end up at odds with friends and family regarding this subject at times, but not because of the subject matter so much as the politics associated with it.
I'm not going to stop being libertarian because I acknowledge climate change, and I shouldn't have to argue about it mired in politics. I shouldn't have to argue about it at all-- Better to put a seed of curiosity in those that disagree with me while showing that I'm always willing to challenge my own opinion, so why not challenge yours? A better variety of ways to address it will only come after its existence and/or causes stop being a political issue.
That said, how many times has the argument "I'm right and you're stupid" worked out for anyone? Does that typically encourage someone to put in a little personal research to challenge their own stance on something? I agree with the earlier notion that there are more adult ways to debate and far better methods of persuasion.
My research tells me there is, indeed, an overwhelming consensus that (1) climate change is real and (2) humans are a major factor in it, but the worst thing that could possibly have happened regarding the threat of climate change and the need to address it is that it got politicized. I'm conservative, and I'm christian, so within my own social circles I end up at odds with friends and family regarding this subject at times, but not because of the subject matter so much as the politics associated with it.
I'm not going to stop being libertarian because I acknowledge climate change, and I shouldn't have to argue about it mired in politics. I shouldn't have to argue about it at all-- Better to put a seed of curiosity in those that disagree with me while showing that I'm always willing to challenge my own opinion, so why not challenge yours? A better variety of ways to address it will only come after its existence and/or causes stop being a political issue.
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