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re: TreDavious White draft stock
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:12 pm to MasterAbe1
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:12 pm to MasterAbe1
I love Tre as much as anyone, but he's had some pretty bad plays over the course, on defense and as a PR. And that PR TD he had would have been a -15 yard return in the NFL. I'm purely speaking objectively with no emotion involved, I really think Tre is limited in what he can do physically on the field. But he's the leader and he's good at that, I'm glad the underclassmen are under him, but what happens when he's suddenly the rookie on the field? I honestly don't see that going well tbh. And I really, really, REALLY hope I'm wrong because if anyone deserves to be successful in the league it's him. But he's been burned a few times and had some pretty stupid moments returning punts. You can't overlook that
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:46 pm to WaterLink
I cannot imagine any NFL GM who wants less stress in his life would watch film of his questionable decisions and outright blunders when fielding punts and say "there's a guy I want returning punts on my team!"....
TW back for a punt was always good for a swig of Pepto-Bismol, maybe a half-Xanax.
TW back for a punt was always good for a swig of Pepto-Bismol, maybe a half-Xanax.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:31 am to WaterLink
at people questioning his talent. He became the starter at CB Week 3 of his true freshman year and been a damn good player since then. How many true freshman CBs start from pretty much day 1 and hold down that spot their entire career at "DBU"? Very few. And all of them are extremely talented. You wouldn't be able to do that if you didn't have a lot of talent and ability. He's had the lowest burn rates in CFB in 2014 and 2015. And he's played his best football this season. That's saying something.
Sure, he's been beat before and has some bad film. Guess what? All CBs do. They all get beat. It happens. But Tre White does not get beat often. He had a horrible game at Arky. I'll give you that. But I don't remember him ever struggling that bad his entire career. It's an outlier.
People say he got worked vs Treadwell. Treadwell had 4recs on 8 targets for 58yards. That's not getting worked at all. And Treadwell was a 1st round pick. It just so happens that 1 of his catches was a TD and that's all people remember. He did a damn good job vs Cooper as well. According to PFF, he's only given up 24recs this year and has 11PBUs with 2 INTs. And as of a few weeks ago, he only had 2 missed tackles this season(IMO his biggest improvement from last year).
I see Tre White going mid to late 1st in the draft. He's a very polished CB and his skill set translate very well to the NFL. He's a very natural and fluid CB who is always in a good position and rarely makes a mistake, smart player. While hes not the biggest CB, he's got extremely long arms and is a lot stronger than his build suggests. He plays bigger than he is and will compete against anyone, regardless of size. And it's not like he's a small CB, he's got good size. He's just not a huge CB. Not worried about his size at all.
At worst, he's the starting CB2 in the nfl. Also think he's versatile enough to play some nickel and even some safety at times, depending on some matchups and opponents game plan. Might not ever be a star, but he's gonna be a damn good player in the NFL for a long time.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:20 am to WaterLink
No way he returns punts in the NFL. He gives too many heart attacks on return decisions.
Now that said I think Tre is going to have a tremendous combine and really boost his draft stock. He's got really loose hips and he's so fluid with great ball skills. Sure he got beat a couple times but White has played 90% of the snaps since the day he stepped on campus...that's going to result in getting beat at some point.
Bottom line is he's done a fantastic job in the SEC and is going to put up great numbers at the combine. The only issue is the deep DB class this year, but he will have a long and rich NFL career
Eta: don't discount his intangibles. The guy is smart, works hard, and is a great leader. Hes going to say all the right things in his interviews. And I know anyone who's coached or played with him will vouch for that which is going to mean something to GM's. Consider it the opposite of the Sam montgomery effect.
Now that said I think Tre is going to have a tremendous combine and really boost his draft stock. He's got really loose hips and he's so fluid with great ball skills. Sure he got beat a couple times but White has played 90% of the snaps since the day he stepped on campus...that's going to result in getting beat at some point.
Bottom line is he's done a fantastic job in the SEC and is going to put up great numbers at the combine. The only issue is the deep DB class this year, but he will have a long and rich NFL career
Eta: don't discount his intangibles. The guy is smart, works hard, and is a great leader. Hes going to say all the right things in his interviews. And I know anyone who's coached or played with him will vouch for that which is going to mean something to GM's. Consider it the opposite of the Sam montgomery effect.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 11:23 am
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